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2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN

View Poll Results: The 45th President of the United States of America will be

Hillary

332 46.63%

TRUMP

190 26.69%

In to watch it burn

161 22.61%

Bastard

73 10.25%

im tryin to tell you about ****in my wife in the *** and youre asking me these personal questions

57 8.01%

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08-20-2016 , 01:30 PM

#17326

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Trump is for universal healthcare?

He has supported it in the past IIRC. Obv we're long past the point where policy actually matters to the GOP.

08-20-2016 , 01:33 PM

#17327

seattlelou

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Obama ends the greatest political debate of our times by heading to Baton Rouge Tuesday. Pretty sure that lift, clean, and place will be in effect. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-pen...134142663.html

08-20-2016 , 01:38 PM

#17328

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

None

These debates are so dumb. A presidents presence only hurts recovery efforts. He is the manager, not the janitor.

I think the symbolism of it matters. A president really should show up in person to these kinds of disasters.

08-20-2016 , 01:46 PM

#17329

Loki

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Even if it impedes recovery efforts?

08-20-2016 , 01:51 PM

#17330

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by sweep single

You have to be trolling, no one loves Obama this much IRL.

No but every single time Obama goes on vacation, something happens in the world, and chiefsplanet goes apoplectic with pictures of Obama golfing next to whatever is happening. It's annoying.

08-20-2016 , 01:52 PM

#17331

LostOstrich

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these people need pictures of politicians handing out supplies more than they need the actual supplies, obviously

08-20-2016 , 01:54 PM

#17332

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol

no really, it's ******ed. why can't obama play golf?

my brother sent out some stupid email to several family members that was basically some verbatim bull**** from sean hannity about how obama is a "douchebag" for saying some bad things many years ago about GWB not doing enough during katrina, and now louisiana is drowning while obama plays golf, or some nonsense.

care to articulate a legitimate criticism here?

I will say I agree that GWB got a bad rap for his response to Katrina. I mean what is he going to do personally other than cause a distraction? Although I guess the first general in charge also sucked. But to his credit that general was replaced. The real problem was his admin. gutting FEMA a few years prior.

I don't hold GWB responsible for 9/11 or the financial crisis much at all. And I think he handled the aftermath of both of those pretty well. If he had just stayed out of Iraq his popularity wouldn't still be in the ****ter and you could argue he was an average president.

08-20-2016 , 01:55 PM

#17333

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Originally Posted by revots33

The right seems obsessed with Obama playing golf. It comes up every time there is video of him playing on the news. I sense a racial element to it.

George W. spent half his presidency playing pretend cowboy on his ranch, no one on the right cared. Black guy plays a round of golf, white people get enraged.

Obama smiling and playing golf is a very winning emotional trigger with the right.

08-20-2016 , 01:56 PM

#17334

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Even if it impedes recovery efforts?

Sure. I don't think Obama will get criticized for heading there Tuesday, do you? The recovery efforts will be marginally adversely affeted but the people will likely be comforted and glad he came.

08-20-2016 , 01:58 PM

#17335

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Bush's heading to ground zero while the fire fighters were still looking for the bodies of the fallen is one of the more memorable and impactful "photo ops" in my memory. It comforted a nation by most accounts.

08-20-2016 , 02:01 PM

#17336

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by LostOstrich

these people need pictures of politicians handing out supplies more than they need the actual supplies, obviously

Like, we can do both of these things.

08-20-2016 , 02:03 PM

#17337

suzzer99

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Dammit Obama, those kids have no toys! Quit golfing and get down here for a 5 minute photo op! Have you no shame sir?

08-20-2016 , 02:03 PM

#17338

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You are correct about 9/11 but way off base about the financial crisis. He could not have butchered that more. No need to derail this thread but watch any of the documentaries on the subject.

08-20-2016 , 02:04 PM

#17339

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Probably makes stuff go faster by having various institutions not wanting to look stupid in front of the president.

Also highlights to the country that the president sees you when times are bad.

Trust in the system is a little bit important isnt it. When trust in the system becomes low ppl will start shooting white cops.

The "the ev of sitting in the white house and working faster" view is a bit naive imo.

08-20-2016 , 02:06 PM

#17340

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DAMMIT OBAMA

08-20-2016 , 02:08 PM

#17341

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Like, we can do both of these things.

I guess you would know better than the actual governor in charge of cleaning up the place

08-20-2016 , 02:08 PM

#17342

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

You are correct about 9/11 but way off base about the financial crisis. He could not have butchered that more. No need to derail this thread but watch any of the documentaries on the subject.

Do you think he should have bailed out Lehman Brothers? Shouldn't have bailed out the others? Because those are the primary decisions. The stimulus he implemented, Obama basically mirrored a year later.

Seems to me like he listened to Paulson and Bernake, just like any sane president would. Maybe he should have seen Paulson's obvious conflict of interest with Goldman sooner. But that's nit-picking imo.

08-20-2016 , 02:10 PM

#17343

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Sure. I don't think Obama will get criticized for heading there Tuesday, do you?

Yes, Obama will be and has been criticized for literally everything he does and doesn't do.

08-20-2016 , 02:21 PM

#17344

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

Yes, Obama will be and has been criticized for literally everything he does and doesn't do.

Don't take it personally, I am sure he doesn't.

08-20-2016 , 02:22 PM

#17345

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80% chance repubs criticize it as pandering or merely a photo op with no hint of self awareness

08-20-2016 , 02:24 PM

#17346

seattlelou

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

80% chance repubs criticize it as pandering or merely a photo op with no hint of self awareness

Tis the crazy season.

08-20-2016 , 02:27 PM

#17347

microbet

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Criticism over Katrina had nothing to do with whether Bush showed his face or not.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/1...esponse-081957

08-20-2016 , 02:27 PM

#17348

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When Obama goes to LA he will be met by the governor, who will thank him for coming and for what he's done so far.

Trump went uninvited and delivered a truck full of... stuff. Though to be fair, Play-Doh is non-toxic, if food gets to be in short supply.

08-20-2016 , 02:28 PM

#17349

suzzer99

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Let us harken back to simpler #PrePivot times. You know, the good old days. Hmmm what famous protests in history had protesters getting ripped out of seats.