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2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN

View Poll Results: The 45th President of the United States of America will be

Hillary

332 46.63%

TRUMP

190 26.69%

In to watch it burn

161 22.61%

Bastard

73 10.25%

im tryin to tell you about ****in my wife in the *** and youre asking me these personal questions

57 8.01%

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10-26-2016 , 02:04 PM

#39626

Huehuecoyotl

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Just a reminder, the idea of Democratic voter fraud isn't something new, it's been in the GOP boogy man toolkit since the Civil Rights Act

Quote:

When President Jimmy Carter proposed a slate of voting reforms, including same-day registration, the Right pounced. Conservative outlets like the Heritage Foundation and Human Events raised the specter of mass fraud, with the former predicting that the legislation would allow “eight million illegal aliens” to vote and the latter warning of “widespread fraud in key urban centers.”

As usual, the legislation’s predicted effects on the GOP’s political fortunes weighed heavily on conservatives’ minds. Republican strategist Kevin Phillips noted that less restrictive voting laws in Wisconsin and Minnesota had boosted turnout and helped Democrats win those states in 1976. He guessed that Carter’s reforms would have a similar impact at the national level, since “most of the new participants, drawn from low-middle and low-income groups, will be Democrats.”

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Indeed, Reagan — doyen of modern conservatism and icon of Never Trumpers — just as surely laid the groundwork for Trump’s “rigged” election histrionics.

Beginning in the 1960s, Reagan used critiques of mass voting as a rhetorical ballast for his excoriations of the welfare state, predicting that democracy would cease to exist when “voters discover they can vote themselves largesse out of the public treasury.” Like many on the Right, Reagan took the logical next step, stridently opposing laws that made it easier for low-income Americans to cast ballots.

“Liberals have made a hobby of carefully nursing the myth that millions of Americans are somehow kept away from the polls because it is so ‘difficult’ to register,” Reagan wrote. But nonvoters, he asserted, were largely “those who get a whole lot more from the federal government — in various kinds of welfare — than they contribute to it.”

As a result, conservatives argued that it was good for the country that such people stayed away from the polls — and perhaps even better for the Republican Party.

People act like Romney's 47% don't pay taxes was some kind of faux pas, but it's built into the DNA of the Republican Party as is a preoccupation with voter fraud and the attendant voter suppression. It's always been there.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/10/d...tial-election/

10-26-2016 , 02:06 PM

#39627

miajag

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10-26-2016 , 02:08 PM

#39628

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

lol @ wishing yourself a happy birthday

Is she that lonely and sad?

The open acknowledgement that the tweeter feed is run by some staffers with Hillary occasionally posting something just seems odd. I know that's how most celebrities/ political people do it, but still it's weird.

10-26-2016 , 02:09 PM

#39629

fatkid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by miajag

lol ad is great. War of the Worlds.

10-26-2016 , 02:10 PM

#39630

Subfallen

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vecernicek

I like the tweet. Reminded me that little girls can grow up to be presidents. It also somehow reminded me that Trump is gross. Good tweet Hillary peeps!

My reaction as well, with an added shiver of sentimentality for how great women like Hillary and women who like Hillary really are. Because let's be honest, men are trying to kill everybody right now, which isn't a good look.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaPo

Among women, Clinton leads Trump by four points or more in 14 of the 15 states surveyed. Averaging across all 15 states, her lead over Trump among women is 49 percent to 35 percent. Among men, Trump leads by four points or more in 12 of the 15 states and by 10 points (47 percent to 37 percent) on average across all 15 states.

10-26-2016 , 02:11 PM

#39631

OmgGlutten!

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Voting fraud is a problem in the inner cities according to Giuliani.

The race hustlers I suppose.

10-26-2016 , 02:13 PM

#39632

microbet

Solar Powered

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Just a reminder, the idea of Democratic voter fraud isn't something new, it's been in the GOP boogy man toolkit since the Civil Rights Act

People act like Romney's 47% don't pay taxes was some kind of faux pas, but it's built into the DNA of the Republican Party as is a preoccupation with voter fraud and the attendant voter suppression. It's always been there.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/10/d...tial-election/

Founder of The Heritage Foundation

10-26-2016 , 02:13 PM

#39633

ScreaminAsian

For President

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10-26-2016 , 02:20 PM

#39634

miajag

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

lol ad is great. War of the Worlds.

Yeah funny how the team with all the Master Persuaders on their side can't put out anything 1/100th that effective. Obv having a platform that isn't a complete garbage pile helps, but still...

10-26-2016 , 02:25 PM

#39635

Paul McSwizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raradevils

Enforcing a no-fly zone and shooting down any anything that violates it might make it happen. We came close to nuclear war when our plane was shot down over Cuba.

That was a different time. Russia doesn't want nor is equipped for with the US. Putin's strategy is to mask his incompetence with military propaganda, fear, and agitation. He understands war w the US is suicide. Most recent Economist has a good piece on all this.

There will certainly by no WW3 w Russia, huge lol at the suggestion DJT would be better for dealing w the Russians though.

10-26-2016 , 02:29 PM

#39636

fatkid

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How close are we to someone punching someone in the face @ CNN? That's the station I'm watching election night.

10-26-2016 , 02:35 PM

#39637

einbert

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Obama having a blast going after Rubio and the rest of the GOP on the campaign trail.

10-26-2016 , 02:36 PM

#39638

Biesterfield

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Quote:

Originally Posted by miajag

Yeah funny how the team with all the Master Persuaders on their side can't put out anything 1/100th that effective. Obv having a platform that isn't a complete garbage pile helps, but still...

that's because this was the work of GODZILLA, mere humans could not possibly come up an ad like that

10-26-2016 , 02:36 PM

#39639

Paul McSwizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

How close are we to someone punching someone in the face @ CNN? That's the station I'm watching election night.

"My mother told one of the women 'you sound like a demon possessed,' she says 'YES I AM.'"

10-26-2016 , 02:37 PM

#39640

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

Voting fraud is a problem in the inner cities according to Giuliani.

To him they all look the same so it appears that they are voting more than once.

10-26-2016 , 02:39 PM

#39641

einbert

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8 SC Justices no big deal according to Cruz.

10-26-2016 , 02:40 PM

#39642

otatop

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Came here to post that tweet, damn you.

It's good to see them abandon their bull**** "the next President should decide" excuse and just flatly admit they're petulant little babies though.

10-26-2016 , 02:40 PM

#39643

goofball

Beat Nate Silver

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Really torn between fox news and cnn for election night. Kayleigh being part of the CNN team could really raise CNN's stock.

10-26-2016 , 02:43 PM

#39644

miajag

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MSNBC was solid in 2012. Maddow and Matthews just gleefully destroying the Ohio Secretary of State was a highlight. The Rove/Kelly performance on Fox was just GOAT though.

10-26-2016 , 02:45 PM

#39645

Double Eagle

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A little more heavy handed than the spot I posted yesterday but Joss Whedon is definitely killing it consistently. Guy might actually have a future in pictures.

Quote:

Originally Posted by miajag

10-26-2016 , 02:49 PM

#39646

Kirbynator

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c'mon florida

10-26-2016 , 02:49 PM

#39647

LFS

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I feel like that Verdict spot would be inspiring to both sides.

10-26-2016 , 02:51 PM

#39648

OTPCook

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofball

Really torn between fox news and cnn for election night. Kayleigh being part of the CNN team could really raise CNN's stock.

I've been thinking about this a lot. I think the move is to watch Fox until it's called and then flip to CNN to see McEnany spin one last time.

10-26-2016 , 02:51 PM

#39649

BAIDS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofball

Really torn between fox news and cnn for election night. Kayleigh being part of the CNN team could really raise CNN's stock.

this is like when someone benches julio jones for torrey smith in fantasy cos julio has tough matchup

dont overthink it. fox is the superior play and always will be

10-26-2016 , 02:51 PM

#39650

goofball

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Current estimation of the race-as-football:

538: Trump is down by 7 with the ball 1st and 10 at midfield, start of the fourth quarter
Me: Clinton in victory formation

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