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2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN

View Poll Results: The 45th President of the United States of America will be

Hillary

332 46.63%

TRUMP

190 26.69%

In to watch it burn

161 22.61%

Bastard

73 10.25%

im tryin to tell you about ****in my wife in the *** and youre asking me these personal questions

57 8.01%

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10-14-2016 , 09:35 PM

#35276

CPHoya

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73,265

Yoo gave a speech at GULC that I went to and it was one of the more troubling sets of takes I've ever heard from a plainly hyperintelligent person. The kind of thing where for a moment you wonder if you're just not that bright, he is, and you aren't getting it.

But then you reflect for a while and realize no, it's not that, it's that he's smart enough to convince himself that the ends do justify the means and to contort all rationality to that end.

Scary because it was real.

Also:

Quote:

"In 2009, two days after taking office, President Barack Obama in Executive Order 13491 repudiated and revoked all legal guidance on interrogation authored by Yoo and his successors in the Office of Legal Counsel between September 11, 2001, and January 20, 2009."

rekt

10-14-2016 , 09:39 PM

#35277

ctyri

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Waited an hour in line on a vacation day to vote against Fascism. Ohio voting is well underway.

10-14-2016 , 09:41 PM

#35278

ChrisV

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For poll junkies, there's a new Arizona poll by some unknown pollster called Data Orbital which wasn't included in RCPs feed of new polls. It's Oct 11-12, so post second debate.

Spoiler:

10-14-2016 , 09:51 PM

#35279

ChrisV

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From the BOLD PREDICTIONS thread, me, circa May 4th:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

Not going to do a full map just yet but I'm going to predict that Hillary wins GA or AZ or both.

Actually the map in Trolly's OP looks quite likely to be exactly correct. Both of us got put in our places though:

Quote:

Originally Posted by plzd0nate

Op how the **** could you actually have Arizona going Dem?

Unfotunately, looks like Georgia is stubbornly Trump. A very large (1400 LV) poll there post second debate. Trump +6. Qualifies as good news for him these days.

10-14-2016 , 09:59 PM

#35280

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

just saw this on maddow, absolutely depressing

and Hillary was completely wrong, it's WAY ****ing more than 50% deplorable

10-14-2016 , 10:04 PM

#35281

ChrisV

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Interesting that 538 has Arizona 51% Dem and Upshot has it 83% GOP. Upshot is missing two pro-Clinton polls for some reason. Probably MEDIA BIAS.

10-14-2016 , 10:08 PM

#35282

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ctyri

Waited an hour in line on a vacation day to vote against Fascism. Ohio voting is well underway.

I got my absentee ballot in the mail today. Ohio voting is underway after I play a few hands of poker and have a beer or two.

10-14-2016 , 10:25 PM

#35283

LastLife

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,593

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Obama and every president to follow has/will murder(ed) people, some of which will be completely innocent and simply in the wrong place, but torture... that's just too far.

Fwiw, I am against torture.

10-14-2016 , 10:30 PM

#35284

Dragonbreath

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 25

Voted today in California for the first time since moving here. HRC for the win.

What ballot initiatives, though! Yes to condoms for porn movies and no to weed.

10-14-2016 , 10:35 PM

#35285

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

Condoms in porn? Nah. They'll just move to a place where they don't need them.

Either that or amateur porn is gonna become way more popular.

10-14-2016 , 10:36 PM

#35286

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

It didn’t take long for multiple producers on the show to begin frantically attempting—in vain—to get the former real-estate mogul to stop calling Lil Jon an “Uncle Tom.” According to two sources from different departments on the production (speaking on the condition of anonymity due to strict*non-disclosure agreements), one reason producers were freaked out was that comedian and talk-show host*Arsenio Hall*(who is also black) was a guest star on that episode, and had heard Trump refer to Lil Jon in the derogatory way.

Hall made his displeasure with the use of the term clear, and staff sprang into damage control.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ffers-say.html

Kind of amazing that he was supposedly doing it in ignorance but still wouldn't say anything else.

10-14-2016 , 10:43 PM

#35287

fatkid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonbreath

Voted today in California for the first time since moving here. HRC for the win.

What ballot initiatives, though! Yes to condoms for porn movies and no to weed.

Why no to weed?

10-14-2016 , 10:49 PM

#35288

Gizmo

Hottest Khaleesi

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 11,956

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Eagle

Man the production team must've run out of **** yeah's as they cut this together. Straight fire.

literal tears. I will vote so hard for Michelle Obama.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ffers-say.html

Kind of amazing that he was supposedly doing it in ignorance but still wouldn't say anything else.

I've just been looking for the bestish place to post this gif.

10-14-2016 , 10:50 PM

#35289

LFS

emo gaylord

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21,863

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ffers-say.html

Kind of amazing that he was supposedly doing it in ignorance but still wouldn't say anything else.

That is very much the kind of thing my father-in-law (a likely Trump voter) does. He'll have a vague understanding that he's doing something offensive, but not really get it, and keep doing it purely because it's bothering people. Like "look how important and smug I am, I don't even care enough to stop doing this thing that bothers you...and I don't really even understand why it bothers you!"

10-14-2016 , 10:52 PM

#35290

beansroast01

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Got my ballot today in Illinois. It looks like Clinton is a mortal-lock to win here as expected. Can I safely vote for Stein in that case? I really don't want to vote for Clinton. I thought I could but I've had my ballot in front of me now for a half hour after filling the rest of it out and I just can't fill this final bubble.

Should I just wait until it gets closer to November 8th in case something unexpected happens that would make Clinton need my vote in Illinois?

10-14-2016 , 10:56 PM

#35291

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imjosh

If Illinois is in play Clinton is already losing in a landslide. That said you should vote for Clinton.

10-14-2016 , 10:58 PM

#35292

beansroast01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jman220

If Illinois is in play Clinton is already losing in a landslide.

Ok, so I don't need to vote for her then?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jman220

That said you should vote for Clinton.

10-14-2016 , 11:02 PM

#35293

jb9

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imjosh

Just watch the Michelle Obama ad and then vote your conscience.

10-14-2016 , 11:02 PM

#35294

Hired Goons2

adept

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 875

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Eagle

Man the production team must've run out of **** yeah's as they cut this together. Straight fire.

Spoiler:

GHW Bush had more relevant experience than HRC does to be president

10-14-2016 , 11:03 PM

#35295

Huehuecoyotl

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Glad to see more progressives are hopping on the rap lyrics thing.

Quote:

Ann Coulter, the right-wing provocateur who has emerged as one of Trump's most vocal defenders, deflected when asked by BuzzFeed News about his response to his accusers.

"Should Trump stay on the issues? Yeah, sure, if only the media would allow him to," Coulter said. "As for any fainting over Trump's 'potty talk,' I await Michelle Obama's apology to the American people for saying that Jay Z and Beyoncé are role models for little girls."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppin...k6#.hr3OlQqNQr

10-14-2016 , 11:06 PM

#35296

Dragonbreath

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

Why no to weed?

Personal preference. Not a big fan of drugs, even relatively benign ones. Medical use is fine.

10-14-2016 , 11:06 PM

#35297

AllTheCheese

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hired Goons2

Spoiler:

GHW Bush had more relevant experience than HRC does to be president

Great point. I'm writing in GHW Bush this November. I'm sure the rest of the thread will follow suit. It's settled, so no need to post here ever again.

Last edited by AllTheCheese; 10-14-2016 at 11:08 PM. Reason: And with all that experience, GHWB is voting for Clinton. I wonder why.

10-14-2016 , 11:06 PM

#35298

ChrisV

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imjosh

Illinois is among the most mortal of Clinton locks, vote for whoever you want.

10-14-2016 , 11:06 PM

#35299

beansroast01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jb9

Just watch the Michelle Obama ad and then vote your conscience.

I watched it, and if I lived in a swing-state I'd snap vote for Clinton.

10-14-2016 , 11:08 PM

#35300

5ive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BreakYaNeck

And you are missing the point. Its sad when you have to worry about every damn thing you say in case you offend someone and hurt their feelings. Just a bunch of whiny crybabies looking to play the victim card at every chance they get.

In b4 "But there is video evidence" Yeah we arent talking about that right now.

Have you guys seen where Conservatives like Ben Shapiro give lectures in California at super liberal schools. Do you see how those kids protest and become violent because of a guest speaker? You guys actually condone that?

Free speech in this country is gone and its a joke

That has little to do with free speech. There's a whole thread about this.

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