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2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN 2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN
View Poll Results: The 45th President of the United States of America will be
Hillary
332 46.63%
TRUMP
190 26.69%
In to watch it burn
161 22.61%
Bastard
73 10.25%
im tryin to tell you about ****in my wife in the *** and youre asking me these personal questions
57 8.01%

09-30-2016 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker
If Clinton is giving up Presidential equity to help out some Senate races, I am all in favor of trying her for treason if she loses.



Trump lacks the self control to let go some jab about a Miss Universe pagent from 20 years ago, that's funny and all haha, but imagine how that translates into being president. Catastrophic.

I wonder how much "power" is shifted from a 51 seat majority to a 49 seat minority. I am guessing it is worth 2 Governors and 3 appeals court justices.
09-30-2016 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
Oh, and apparently you can't use snopes in a facebook argument anymore, you'll just get this as a reply.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fa...beral-blogger/
snopes does have some pretty liberal takes on fuzzy issues (like the exact meaning of things someone said). Which I wish they wouldn't do because it gives chiefsplanet a window to completely discount them on hard factual issues.
09-30-2016 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
From Whom?

There's very clearly 35-45% of the country that isn't voting for her regardless. It doesn't hurt her to piss them off.
Voter turnout....
09-30-2016 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
From Whom?

There's very clearly 35-45% of the country that isn't voting for her regardless. It doesn't hurt her to piss them off.
It hurts to be pissing off the people who might vote for Trump - people think she's talking about them, their nearest and dearest and their community.

Clinton was right to pull it back.
09-30-2016 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
From Whom?

There's very clearly 35-45% of the country that isn't voting for her regardless. It doesn't hurt her to piss them off.
Obama-Romney
Obama-McCain
Bush-Kerry
Bush-Gore
Clinton-Dole
Clinton-Bush
Bush-Dukakis
Reagan-Mondale
Reagan-Carter

Tell me that "most likable" isn't as important as any policy position.

Looking like a condescending elitist is not a winner. And that's part of the reason there are a lot of people who won't vote for her. BoD is just one brick in the wall, but it's part of her not being seen as generally likable to a lot of people.

This is studied. Charisma and what it's components are and how it affects voting. People, a lot of people, are supposed to listen to her and feel like she's on their side. They're not supposed to know she not (though it's ok if a small enough number are this category) and they're not even supposed to wonder whether she is or not (that's too many people for her).
09-30-2016 , 01:21 PM
Pretty sure BoD does more to turn out liberals than it does to motivate Trump supporters with hurt feelings.
09-30-2016 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Like, there are people who heard Hillary say "deplorables = sexists, racists, homophobes" and now PROUDLY identify as deplorable
09-30-2016 , 01:22 PM
Stuart Varney going HAM

09-30-2016 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Obama-Romney
Obama-McCain
Bush-Kerry
Bush-Gore
Clinton-Dole
Clinton-Bush
Bush-Dukakis
Reagan-Mondale
Reagan-Carter

Tell me that "most likable" isn't as important as any policy position.
OK done. It's not and I don't think your list makes that case in and of itself. It also ignores that we're a much different political climate with far starker dividing lines than we were in the past. I just don't buy that likability is a big issue when the other guy is Donald Trump.

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Looking like a condescending elitist is not a winner. And that's part of the reason there are a lot of people who won't vote for her.
Again, who are these people and how many of them do you think there are?

Your entire argument seems based on "this is what I think a candidate should do" and isn't bothering to deal with the context of 2016.
09-30-2016 , 01:27 PM
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In a Thursday interview, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich slammed Hillary Clinton's resurfacing of Donald Trump's comments about a former Miss Universe as "an ambush that was as false as Benghazi."
"This is the new Benghazi lie," he said in an interview on conservative radio host Sean Hannity's show, as flagged by Buzzfeed.
Remember when Hillary killed four Americans? Reminding people that Trump said a Miss Universe was fat is the same thing.
09-30-2016 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Pretty sure BoD does more to turn out liberals than it does to motivate Trump supporters with hurt feelings.
There's no way to tell, so whatever, you could be right. It's not like either of us can prove anything. But, I think it would be harder to find someone who BoD convinced to vote for HRC than against her.
09-30-2016 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
There's no way to tell, so whatever, you could be right. It's not like either of us can prove anything. But, I think it would be harder to find someone who BoD convinced to vote for HRC than against her.
Consciously? Yes I agree. Like I said though I think this could be a long game all about driving a wedge between Trump and women. Or maybe she just blew it.
09-30-2016 , 01:40 PM
This argument reminds me so much of conversations I have about wrestling. Where there's this understood orthodoxy among "smart" fans about how to book a show and make money. This results in folks complaining that the company isn't doing things "the right way" and ignore that it's no longer 1980 and the way you engage the fans has totally changed. (in short, everybody knows it's not real, knows how the business works, wins and losses matter way less to fans who now just appreciate a worker's talent as a performer. Your champ can lose a non-title match and it isn't an issue that he "looks weak")

There's more information available for both sides. We know more about the candidates, we know more about the voters. Everything has changed. On top of that it's far more polarized as the Republican party has cast off reason and decency. The old rules simply don't apply, and if you rely on them you're going to aiming at targets that don't exist.
09-30-2016 , 01:41 PM


Amazing. The dude cannot let one single thing slide. Instead he brings constant attention to every negative thing ever said about him. How many of his fans weren't even aware of these newspapers coming out against him? Well they are now. It's fascinating how he can't get this.
09-30-2016 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Stuart Varney going HAM

I like that he can't just say TRUMP is scumbag he has to remind everyone Hill is Just as bad if not worse cuz Obama economy.
09-30-2016 , 01:42 PM
WRESTLING IS TOO REAL! SHUTUP DIDS!
09-30-2016 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99


Amazing. The dude cannot let one single thing slide. Instead he brings constant attention to every negative thing ever said about him. How many of his fans weren't even aware of these newspapers coming out against him? Well they are now. It's fascinating how he can't get this.
Good on em but I think the Arizona paper should of stayed quiet on this one.
09-30-2016 , 01:45 PM
And here's why the media doesn't show more balls in calling out Trump: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/da...stom_click=rss

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The Dallas Morning News has experienced a noticeable decline in subscriptions following its endorsement of Hillary Clinton.

"[S]ome people have cancelled their subscriptions, so we lost some customers at a time when it's tough to lose customers," editor Mike Wilson told the Washington Examiner Tuesday evening.

Earlier, in an interview with Poynter, Wilson said the Dallas Morning News experienced some unpleasant pushback after it announced its support for Clinton, breaking its more than 75-year-old tradition of endorsing GOP candidates for president.
09-30-2016 , 01:46 PM
I don't think she meant to refer to people as deplorable. I think she meant to refer to those traits as deplorable and she just said it badly.
09-30-2016 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
WRESTLING IS TOO REAL!
This is a good typo.
09-30-2016 , 01:49 PM
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Fox News host Megyn Kelly has followed up a fiery interview with Donald Trump’s campaign manager to flay the GOP candidate’s team for continuing to defend degrading comments he’s made about women.

“Why don’t they just shut up about the women and how big they’re supposed to be?!” she asked her guests on Thursday.

Kelly seized the moment to succinctly put her case after Navy Seal veteran and Trump supporter Carl Higbie said he didn’t understand why the media was focusing on the brash businessman’s awful comments about former Miss Universe Alicia Machado.

“Well the reason is because many people find that kind of objectification objectionable,” she said. “And you shouldn’t alienate half the country ― women ― and you shouldn’t alienate 70 percent of the country who are overweight.”

“It’s a good way to lose votes,” she added.

The night before, Kelly went after Trump’s campaign manager for downplaying the Republican candidates history of making sexist comments.

“You know he has repeatedly made comments about women ― about their looks, their size, their weight, even in this campaign,” Kelly told Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway.
Wow. Clinton has got them in-fighting now. She laid the bait, Trump took it, and now the conversation is completely on Trump. Can't ask for much more.
09-30-2016 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
This is a good typo.
Wouldn't it be 'too', as in 'also'? I wrestled with which to use.

Spoiler:
09-30-2016 , 01:53 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b024a52d2ead02

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Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said in a 1999 interview that he once promised his daughter Ivanka he’d never date a girl younger than her.

Ivanka Trump would have been 17 in 1999, when Trump made the claim to radio host Howard Stern, according to the New York Daily News.

“I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”
09-30-2016 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid


I've been frantically looking for the this sex tape (for science) and I can't find it.
A dude on top of her while they're covered by a blanket. Pretty lame.
09-30-2016 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
It's fascinating how he can't get this.
It really is because he's had so many chances where if he'd just SHUT THE **** UP he'd look good, but instead those tiny fingers go wild on Twitter.

He's had so much success just talking constantly that he probably can't be convinced his dumb tweets are hurting him.

      
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