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03-30-2008 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainHook
He will never agree to that because he offers people the chance to prove their claims all the time and they turn him down without fail every time.

I can't really explain why he uses the medium of trolling everyone in sight to get his points across, but for the most part he knows what he's talking about.
Cause its a pretty clear example.

If you want to say that frontrunning someone at props is a simple and easy method to make money and I offer a simple example where I'll let you take 10c (2x what was originally recommended) vig off of my props and you decline... It pretty apparent what is going on.

I find the qualitative people are mostly just ******s who putter around in vast circles. Occasionally they'll stumble across something without realizing what they have, and sometimes they'll see the evidence and then willingly choose to ignore it.
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03-30-2008 , 02:59 PM
There are so many ways of making money sports betting I take the 55/45 thing as kind of a joke.

If I were him and if I played short edges like that I would just take the action on one game and go from there...
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03-30-2008 , 03:00 PM
Odds are short. Edges are small. Please atleast learn some basic ****ing terminology if you're gonna tard it up.

Post another Kelly Criterion approx soon. I need a good laugh.
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03-30-2008 , 03:00 PM
Wait a minute. You mean you guys think all handicapping is a number/number crunching game? Like, it goes without saying that splitting hairs on value over thousands of bets is the only way to win?
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03-30-2008 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Thremp
Cause its a pretty clear example.

If you want to say that frontrunning someone at props is a simple and easy method to make money and I offer a simple example where I'll let you take 10c (2x what was originally recommended) vig off of my props and you decline... It pretty apparent what is going on.

I find the qualitative people are mostly just ******s who putter around in vast circles. Occasionally they'll stumble across something without realizing what they have, and sometimes they'll see the evidence and then willingly choose to ignore it.
I forgot to ask you, did you have any picks for today? I was looking forward to some indian food tonight...
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03-30-2008 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Thremp
Odds are short. Edges are small. Please atleast learn some basic ****ing terminology if you're gonna tard it up.

Post another Kelly Criterion approx soon. I need a good laugh.
"Look ma, I've lost my mind again..."
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03-30-2008 , 03:05 PM
Not gonna lie, I usually find these feuds childish, but this one is just great, because both really believe the other person is mildly ******ed.
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03-30-2008 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinch
Wait a minute. You mean you guys think all handicapping is a number/number crunching game? Like, it goes without saying that splitting hairs on value over thousands of bets is the only way to win?
Obv not. There are many ways to get at the dollars. Claiming 25 points dogs are faves to win makes you a moron though.
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03-30-2008 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rush66
Not gonna lie, I usually find these feuds childish, but this one is just great, because both really believe the other person is mildly ******ed.
I fail to see how anyone can not hold that viewpoint after reading some of those 1000+ word abortions he's posted in previous incarnations.
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03-30-2008 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Thremp
I fail to see how anyone can not hold that viewpoint after reading some of those 1000+ word abortions he's posted in previous incarnations.
As opposed to someone who needs a web form to figure out a "good bet"...
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03-30-2008 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NegativeZero
As opposed to someone who needs a web form to figure out a "good bet"...
Sick burn.
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03-30-2008 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Thremp
Sick burn.
thx

No picks today?
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03-30-2008 , 03:16 PM
NZ,

When thremp changes his avatar finally are you going to change yours too? Ive been wondering this for a while.
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03-30-2008 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NegativeZero
thx

No picks today?
You heard my terms. Find an escrow, post up, and we're off.

1k limits

Bodog/SB/VIP?
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03-30-2008 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Thremp
Obv not. There are many ways to get at the dollars. Claiming 25 points dogs are faves to win makes you a moron though.
Oh, did I claim they were the favorite to win? I claimed they were a 25 point dog and that they would win. I took 5-to-1 props, with dozens of witnesses in Caesars poker room. All the moron talk stopped when they went up about 17.

Everything that adds up is not a number, which a lot of mathematicians seem to lose track of in the morass of figures.
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03-30-2008 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Thremp
You heard my terms. Find an escrow, post up, and we're off.

1k limits

Bodog/SB/VIP?
You already know the arrangement. 10%. Just give me the picks up-front.
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03-30-2008 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NegativeZero
You already know the arrangement. 10%. Just give me the picks up-front.
Yes. Now who is the escrow?
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03-30-2008 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinch
Everything that adds up is not a number, which a lot of mathematicians seem to lose track of in the morass of figures.
What does this mean?
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03-30-2008 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Thremp
Yes. Now who is the escrow?
That would be the EFT clearinghouse, I guess...
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03-30-2008 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinch
This system had them to win it outright, money line.
Does this mean anything other than "favorite to win"?


I feel like the true essence of your meaning is lost in the morass of words obfuscating the true distillate of your soul.
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03-30-2008 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinch
Oh, did I claim they were the favorite to win? I claimed they were a 25 point dog and that they would win. I took 5-to-1 props, with dozens of witnesses in Caesars poker room. All the moron talk stopped when they went up about 17.

Everything that adds up is not a number, which a lot of mathematicians seem to lose track of in the morass of figures.
You should ahve been getting a lot better than 5-1 for a 25 point dog man
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03-30-2008 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rush66
You should ahve been getting a lot better than 5-1 for a 25 point dog man
Over the poker table on prop bets when nobody around here posts money lines on chalks over 10? How do you figure that? You take what you can get on props and I drummed up 5-to-1 on what I believed was near even-money.

There are times when lines are way, way off. That is easily established. A couple years ago Louisville opened against Kentucky in football and were 10. Over the next several weeks it became obvious that that number should have been about 35 to 40. Louisville was crushing eveyone about 55-10 and Kentucky was the worst team on the schedule. The line was off by 25 or 30 points in that game. It happens.
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03-30-2008 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rush66
NZ,

When thremp changes his avatar finally are you going to change yours too? Ive been wondering this for a while.
Think I should? I was wondering about that also...
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03-30-2008 , 03:35 PM
I think forcing myself to read and understand these posts has helped my tilt so so so much more than anything else.

Clippers blow a two bucket lead with 7 ticks.... Just another day in the office. A year ago... I would've murdered a litany of kittens.
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03-30-2008 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Thremp
I think forcing myself to read and understand these posts has helped my tilt so so so much more than anything else.

Clippers blow a two bucket lead with 7 ticks.... Just another day in the office. A year ago... I would've murdered a litany of kittens.
Darn it. I wanted you to win to so I could get an advance on my 10%. How much would I have if you won?
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