True, the real problem is not that just that it was a bad decision, but that all refs scored it the same. Basically, the other 2 refs have also drank the Cecil Peoples kool aide..
Fightmetric shows strikes as
shogun - 82
machida - 42

Basically even on everything but shogun landing 49 leg kicks to machida's 4...
Rogan was talking more about Shogun because Shogun was landing way more..
The bottom line is the 10 point must system is a joke for MMA.

The problem is, overall as a fight 99% of people would agree Shogun won.

As a 5 round bout under the 10 point must, on first watch I'm only about 55-60% sure Shogun won, and possibly even lost ( will have to wait to rewatch ).

Keep posting your picks and doing your write ups. I enjoy reading them.

Machida was the clear winner. At the end of the fight the judged pick the winner its Machida he won. Are you a proffessional judge no you arent if you were you would pick machida to

LOL professional judges

my math sucks...the current public record should be 15-3 for +22.25 units

lol at people following others blindly. get own opinions man, stop whining

I don't believe I ever insulted you, if I did in some way I apologize for that. I was more just frustrated because I was not betting the okami fight but after reading your analysis I added him to a 6 fight parlay where I went on to win the other 5. Not a big deal though, I only had 2 units on that and my units are only a hundo. Thankfully, I stayed away from the Hardonk play because his line got worse and I just didn't have faith in him. I just blindly followed you on Kimmons which is my own fault for not doing more research/watching more fights. You probably would've had a positive night if you didn't get screwed on Shogun it sounds like. I

s there any reason why you don't release some pics earlier like the valazquez -210 you had? It would be nice to hear your opinions when the lines are still juicy. I did add more on dos santos after that write up on 103 so it's not all bad.

I am glad that I found A. Johnson win 1st round prop for +320. I only put one unit on this and in hindsight it seems we all should've jumped big on that, just such an unfair fight I felt bad for Yoshi.

I'm rambling on because Dream is somewhat boring tonight, it will be fun to see if Overeem can pull off murder later vs Thompson though.

Regardless of the decision in the Machida-Rua fight, the fight was a lot more entertaining than I thought it would be. Has there ever been an instance where the UFC has done an instant rematch between two competitors? Seems like with Rampage gone Hollywood, a rematch between these two should be immediate instead of a different challenger for Lyoto.

Machida did nothing. 2 or 3 clean punches. BULL****

machida won the fight.. How do you win the fight you may ask. if the fight last all rounds you win the fight by the judges score card. the judges said machida won therefore he won anyone sayin he didnt win is dumb ducy?

Terrible judging aside, is anyone else bored with watching Machida fights? I have made similar posts on other boards, but I still ask the question, if Machida was fighting someone with his identical style, would one punch be thrown? I would imagine both fighters would back up to opposite sides of the ring with no one coming forward. I agree with Joe Rogan and everyone else that he is the most gifted defensive martial arts fighter we have, but imo MMA is not only about the discipline of MMA, but putting on entertaining fights for the fans. With the exception of the Thiago Silva fight, I am left disappointed by every Machida fight, and a rematch with Shogun does not appear to be any different.

I thought the Rashad fight and Tito fight were pretty good. Soukoujou fight was good too.

Everyone jumped on Machida after the rashad fight and now everyone wants to jump off him. I find all of his fights very interesting, he usually finds a mistake in an opponents game and quickly capitalizes. Shogun simply had a great training camp and studied Machida well. I also think Machida might have layed off in training somewhat after winning the belt, or atleast lost a little hunger. It was the 2 best LHW's in the world, I can't even believe some people were comparing this pre fight to Fedor-Rogers.

Yup. People have jumped off the bandwagon pretty quick. Now is probably when we find out who the true Machida fans are.

Nobody's talking about a Machida-Silva fight anymore. Now everyone is talking about nothing else but a rematch between Machida-Rua.

lol some of you guys are acting like Machida was like Mayweather out there. it's one thing if you're playing passive and defensive but hitting most of your punches and winning the counterattack, but Machida got very few clean looks in even when he charged and when the other 90% of the fight is him getting chased around and hit with an occasional leg/stomach kick the guys not in control he's fighting for his life.

Im so looking forward to the rematch I expect machida closes at +150.

I agree.

This is just sad.

It was a dominant performance by Shogun , clear as day and he doesn't win?

Then what the hell is the point.

Gotta be kidding me? Close enough to go either way?

U lost cred brotha.

Agreed, the point of competition is you watch 2 trained teams or individuals compete and the better performance at the end wins.

When your sport doesn't reward the clearly best performance than its pointless to invest time and energy into caring about it.

With how you score it you should be one of the idiot judges for the next main event.

Knowing the all three judges gave Machida the first 3 rounds, not worth anymore thought just pure bs and no diff from bs boxing.

from the sherdog recap

Round four seemed to be the turning point of the bout, however, as Rua steadily found the mark with more and more punches, as well as the thudding body shots with which he had already been scoring. The final round was all Rua. Machida, bleeding from his mouth and struggling to keep his hands up, was forced into a defensive posture while Shogun attacked throughout the frame.

machida stole the last round?
i had parlays and won with machida and it was pure theft.

shogun
machida
machida
shogun
honestly have no idea

For those of you saying that the 10 point must system doesn't work for mma, could you explain what you would change about it?
Not trying to be an @sshole just that I would like to know.
As for machida fights being uninteresting, I think they are interesting, but not really entertaining. I liked seeing Tito getting dismantled fwiw.
That Evans was fight was horrible though.
Also, if Shogun wins a decision, which I think he should've, does Machida immediately get a rematch with him? Just wondering. Or does like winner of couture/ vera get him?