Excellent 2009 Foty, rematch is due to play out on the 21st of Nov 2010.

Sergio is available at around 11/10 (+110)

Any boxing pundits have any thing to say about a strong position on Sergio?


Dywers 2 cents "Trust me counter punchers are much more dangerious in a rematch".

Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez 1

I was hoping someone would post this. This is a very legitimate match, and there are actually several outstanding matches this November and December so hopefully we can get some good discussion going.

Anyway, I will be on Sergio Martinez this match. I agree with Dwyer's comments on this match. I've never really been too impressed with Paul Williams. I think Sergio won the first fight and I don't think Paul Williams really wants this rematch with him. He also did not look good at all against Kermit Cintron. I am interested to see which way the money will go on this fight. So far it has been on Paul Williams, I'm hoping it continues to go that way. I also really don't understand the whole catch weight at 157 thing, seems pointless to me.

this looks like a calvin kleine ad

Also where are you finding Sergio at 11/10?

europe.

am i remembering the first fight wrong or didn't martinez start off really strong while williams performed better in the later rounds? it seems to me that would be evidence against martinez "figuring out the combination" like the guy in the video was saying.

Martinez was taking the fight on less than a month's notice having not fought in 10 months.

I'm looking forward to the fight too... but why do people post those stupid Dwyer videos. The guy is a massive square. I made the mistake of clicking on the link and in the first minute of the video the guy says he didn't bet Martinez in the first fight because the fight was 50/50 and Martinez was a huge dog. In the small number of his videos I've watched he makes at least one unequivocally moronic statement each time.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go and make some "straddle bets."

haha, nice. I like what he has to say but do not agree with his whole straddling strategy

While we're here, what's everyone's thoughts on Juan Manuel Lopez vs Rafael Marquez?

Lopez - 1.36
Marquez - 4.3
Draw - 33 (betfair's will be bigger when liquid)

BPP: 99.7%.

Besides being KO'd by Vasquez, Marquez hasn't been KO'd for years now. Since he has fought Vasquez four times, you'd expect a KO so it's not a factor regarding his chin.

Lopez has an impressive trend of knocking boxers out who have never been KO'd before (Lontchi, Luevano, De Leon (still), Concepcion, Medina). His blemish will be his points decision vs Mtagwa who got smashed in by Gamboa.

It's a little old but here are some highlights of Lopez: All his recent fights are on there anyway..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0MgwHnO55E

Lopez, a beautiful fighter to watch in terms of striking. Marquez a warrior too old to sustain some serious punching power? Early-mid KO? According to reports Marquez has been practising constantly with left handers and sparring great but I think we know the result of this one...

it wont be over quickly, Raph is to good to be ko'ed and he is catching a second wind and is decent at the moment but Juan Manuel Lopez is a whole other kettle of fish, look how soild he is in stature, he is soild wereas raph looks aging to be honest, thats a funny thing to say about a super fit human being that is only 35 but boxing is one of the hardest sports there is.

I think its a case of Raph being just to much in all areas, I really need to go through raphs last ten fights and Lopez the same but the odds are -300, how much are you going to put on, you might find raph in a decent war mid fight with him being on the canvas once or twice, it depends how Lopez is, your correct thou.

moving on..

Weight Alert!!! - Dwyer


This is an interesting video by Dywer and I think It deserves some consideration, Dywer is a big big sergio fan but he has voiced some concerns regarding Sergios weight!

This is an interest topic, fighters that lose a lot of weight too close to fight night end up being lesser fighters to a considerable degree.

Dywer is a two edged sword, he talks a good one but some times he talks sht.

This however is important for any one going large on Sergio.

I feel Pual Williams has just a bit more stock in the tank over Sergio and if Williams was only a little bit less of a fighter or Sergio was younger and less weight drained I would not hisitate in recommending Sergio for a 2 or 3 unit bet.

ROPE A DOPE LOPEZ VS RAFAEL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK_6gfU4ZuM

dywer for the upset..

Pretty sick prediction by Dywer, he is right about how good Rafael is thou, he very very good +300 maybe value, if you actually take a step back and look at it, will be a good fight, thanks for posting it.

I agree, both men appear to be very good looking.

dwyer. sigh. to me, its just another sign to me of how being articulate can get you so much attention even when what you say is complete utter garbage. nice guy though. maybe i should buy his book for my own amusement.

regarding the fight, i can't call it but i am very excited for it. i had sergio winning fight 7-5. he definately landed more solid blows. however, i do understand judging tends to favor volume punchers and active fighters. i think its more of a flaw in judging criteria.

FWIW on lopez/marquez card there is glen johnson vs allen green. sportsbook.com is hanging a soft johnson by dec prop at +200. Prop is even money in uk and +144 at 5 dimes.

Lopez vs Marquez - an excellent fight (apart from a few breaks from action) - don't want to spoil it for those who don't know..Interviews are worth watching as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lebHo2lyZw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFxgzYEUV0Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJMRW3El4Kg

Anyone got info on why a bunch of late money came in on paul williams. The odds went from even on paul to -140 in the last 24 hours.

People realizing he can do no wrong in the judge's eyes.

Wow, where did that come from?

as one of the 10 people who watch boxing in this forum. wow. i definately didn't see that one. out...cold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9clq3Gp2z0

KO at 7:10. Now that was flush!

So we have Khan vs Maidana, Alexander vs Bradley, B-hop vs Pascal, Berto vs Hernandez all to look forward to very soon..and then possibly haye vs klitschko, lopez vs gamboa, khan/mayweather vs pacman, great times..

not to mention a good showtime card of marquez/juanma...johnson/green. then marg/pac. now this. let the good times roll. hbo is stepping up their game and forcing the best to fight the best.