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just found out that the last 7 people in one of my leagues was on Ten this week. $1150 chopped 7 ways.
Still pretty disappointed that I won't get to use Seattle next week

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11-10-2013 , 10:03 PM

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Zathras

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 416

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Originally Posted by MagnumMike357

Interesting situation:
15 people left in 30 person pool starting in week 8. One person missed their pick this week (first game of week cut off) and was eliminated. The rest of the league picked tenn or indy. Should the person who missed their pick move on to next week?
-Possible relevant information: Others have been eliminated via missed pick, $20 buy in

If the situation you're describing is a complete elimination of all players, (1 missed pick and the other 14 picked a loser) then we'd rule this as a co-elimination and it would be a 15 way chop.

If your pool rules stipulate that in a week where all remaining players lose, that they all get a mulligan and advance, (which is what I infer from your question about moving on) then I'd say that all 15 should get to advance. A loss is a loss, whether by picking a loser, or elimination via a missed pick.

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Originally Posted by accobra_kid

He didn't submit a pick this week, so he's eliminated at the pick deadline. The remaining people advance on to participate in this week and beyond.

nah... all eliminations for a given week should be equal, regardless of when during that weeks games you were eliminated...

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11-10-2013 , 10:16 PM

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wazzu24

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Letting a player who would have an extra team at his disposal stay in the competition is a no go.

Seems obvious to me.

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11-10-2013 , 10:35 PM

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h_ven

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Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,565

Oh crap, I kind of misread that and just realized that everyone was eliminated. So yeah, what are you going to do when he has an extra team?

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11-10-2013 , 10:46 PM

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MagnumMike357

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Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 155

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Originally Posted by h_ven

Oh crap, I kind of misread that and just realized that everyone was eliminated. So yeah, what are you going to do when he has an extra team?

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I think having an extra team should probably be the reason for eliminating the player.

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11-10-2013 , 10:49 PM

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accobra_kid

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 15,313

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Originally Posted by MagnumMike357

Most importantly -- what rules did the commissioner publicize at the start of the season?

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11-10-2013 , 11:11 PM

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TheGreenMile

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,109

commish probably didn't expect that anyone would miss a pick at a time crucial enough that the poll could end. not all commissioners plan for stuff like this, unfortunately.

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11-10-2013 , 11:11 PM

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BraveJayhawk

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Originally Posted by MagnumMike357

I think having an extra team should probably be the reason for eliminating the player.

This

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11-10-2013 , 11:27 PM

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BraveJayhawk

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Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,575

Entered a midseason Survivor Pool that started this week AFTER Indianapolis & Tennessee lost on Sportsbook. Pick 2 teams per week. Both have to win to advance. Over 50% of entrants out before I entered. They rake like 40% of the prize pool obv.

Took New Orleans in every entry. Matched them with 5 each on Arizona, New Orleans & San Francisco

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11-11-2013 , 06:41 AM

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Zathras

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 416

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Originally Posted by TheGreenMile

commish probably didn't expect that anyone would miss a pick at a time crucial enough that the poll could end. not all commissioners plan for stuff like this, unfortunately.

very true.
In this case I would assume that you could do one of two things.

If you did have some pool rule that in a week where all eliminated entries were revived then you could revive their teams as well.

But the most obvious way to handle it would be a pool-ending chop, with all entries that lost this week, regardless of whether they lost by picking a loser or failing to make a pick. This is how our pool would handle it.

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11-11-2013 , 07:47 PM

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Zathras

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 416

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Originally Posted by Zathras

and then as soon as I say that, I find that one of the survivor pools hosted on our site is facing this exact scenario if Miami loses tonight.
11 entries going into week 10. 8 on losers, one on Miami, and 2 missed. I've been asked that if Miami loses, to reset the 9 entries that lost, and leave the 2 that missed the deadline out. So there you go... not how we'd handle it but obviously some are. it's definitely something that should be clear in your pool rules.

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11-11-2013 , 07:53 PM

#2412

overcast

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 230

Seems like someone that didn't get a pick in shouldn't be out of the pool if nobody else picks a winner. I get that they shouldn't get the benefit of not losing a team either. Maybe take away the most valuable team they have left as the punishment?

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11-11-2013 , 09:50 PM

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mulebennett

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Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,886

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Originally Posted by overcast

**** that.

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11-11-2013 , 10:18 PM

#2414

overcast

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Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 230

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Originally Posted by mulebennett

**** that.

I mean, I have no dog in the fight, but why should a non-pick be different from a losing pick?

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11-11-2013 , 10:46 PM

#2415

Riverman

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I like the policy of first missed pick = you get the biggest unused favorite, second missed pick = elimination.

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11-12-2013 , 06:18 PM

#2416

ProfBets

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Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,976

knocked out of small ish 35 person pool with Indy, but can't even begin to complain as nearly 85% of my biggest pool were knocked out with the majority being on Indy, Tenn, and some on SF...I was gonna be on Indy in both pools, but luckily changed last minute to New Orleans.

72 remaining players from an initial 1799.

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11-13-2013 , 05:00 PM

#2417

ProfBets

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Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,976

Anyone else a lil bit more worried then they should be about this SEA vs MINN game? Yes I know they don't lose at home and MINN has been crappy, but SEA's O-line has not been good vs a decent MINN pass rush and also the other weakness is in SEA's Defense more specifically against the Run which in this case will be versus all day AP Adrian Peterson.

SEA still has the highest EV according to my survivor grid as it's coming in as 82.9% win percentage and only 13.2% popularity which is 3rd most popular or so. Am I just over thinking?

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11-13-2013 , 05:34 PM

#2418

anthai.lu

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 475

Pretty surprising to see SEA struggle against TB but I highly doubt it happens again. Don't over-think it...

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11-15-2013 , 08:43 AM

#2419

wamplerr

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Originally Posted by ProfBets

Is this a second chance pool?

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11-15-2013 , 04:16 PM

#2420

ProfBets

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Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,976

nah been going all season, but teams r reusable...I believe Ponder is out for this game too which I didn't realize before, and Harvin is coming back for SEA so they'll have another weapon on top of Tate down the field in case the run game doesn't work, so I feel better about it now.

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11-15-2013 , 04:40 PM

#2421

ProfBets

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Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,976

wait Ponder is questionable, should start but what QB they play still doesn't really make that big a difference.

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11-15-2013 , 10:15 PM

#2422

canabiz

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 228

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Originally Posted by ProfBets

nah been going all season, but teams r reusable...I believe Ponder is out for this game too which I didn't realize before, and Harvin is coming back for SEA so they'll have another weapon on top of Tate down the field in case the run game doesn't work, so I feel better about it now.

Is your Pool still called Survivor?

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11-16-2013 , 03:38 PM

#2423

ProfBets

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,976

I know it takes out all the strategy, my first time playing one of these but after all the cards fell it's the only one I'm still in for this season and biggest prize pool at least.

But if I ever had doubts about the power of separation they were magnified last week, as obv Titans and Colts were the favorites but I changed to Saints last minute and avoided the nearly 85% elimination of the pool. Future value goes out the window, but there's still separation.

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11-17-2013 , 11:53 AM

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accobra_kid

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 15,313

I'm still weighing my options for today. 10 left, picks so far are:

Arizona 3
Cincinnati 2
Houston 2
Seattle 1

I have ARZ/CIN/HOU/NYG still available. Have been planning on taking the Giants all week, but their line has been moving in the wrong direction, while the Cardinals/Jags has been moving in the opposite direction.

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11-17-2013 , 12:53 PM

#2425

BraveJayhawk

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Midseason Survivor that started last week.

673/5,314 remaining. I have 10 entries left. Double pick EVERY week

Went with

Seattle/Arizona x 5
Seattle/Philadelphia x 3
Seattle/Chicago x 2

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