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09-20-2019 , 09:36 AM
I'm not 100% sold on any team whose two victories were against the Jets/Giants.
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09-20-2019 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
Probably because Cincinnati has looked at least semi-competitive through 2 games and Buffalo still gets 2 cracks at Miami.
They looked good against SEA, but don't think I'd call them even semi-competitive vs. SF.
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09-20-2019 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BulltexasATM
Why is no one mentioning Buffalo? Defense has looked great, they are at home for the first time, probably the best time to pick them if you plan to go the distance and Cincinnati is garbage.
Why are you handicapping games when that work has already been done for you?
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09-20-2019 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gallagher_
Why are you handicapping games when that work has already been done for you?
Not sure what you are talking about since this thread is a discussion thread and I posted a thought for discussion.

Think Buffalo is a good pick if not picking Dal or NE. I'm saving those two for later and going against the masses in a 1 pick league. We'll see how it turns out. No AJ Green, no problem for Bills D.

Those that pick TB good luck. History has shown Jameis is just as likely to have 4 picks as 2 TD's in any game he plays in.
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09-20-2019 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BulltexasATM
Not sure what you are talking about since this thread is a discussion thread and I posted a thought for discussion.
He's saying there are Vegas odds so instead of you subjectively trying to think team x will win because of y reason, just use the lines. If you think you are better than the lines, then bet the games, survivor isn't really your most +ev way to use your superior knowledge.

I'll be honest, in some situations I'll input a minute amount of my own subjectivity into my picks, mainly because it makes me feel good and that I'm doing something and not just being a robot, but in no way do I think I know more than Vegas lines and I'd like to think the very minute amount I input this subjectivity has no material difference.

If I was better at math, I'd consider completely auto-piloting survivor.

There is also the element of trying to guess who your opponents will make that makes it fun.
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09-21-2019 , 10:59 AM
Just going to keep taking the free wins while they're available. I just can't rationalize forgoing a 22 point favorite and picking a td favorite in the hopes of a colossal upset.

still have all 4 entries left

3 Cowboys
1 Patriots
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09-21-2019 , 11:07 AM
Yeah. Miami is actively tanking. Free wins are free wins. Worry about the weeks with double picks or Miami second round of diviosnal opponents when they come up
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09-21-2019 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Gallagher_
Why are you handicapping games when that work has already been done for you?
hmmm, I wonder why. Has anyone in here watched the NFL before? It seems pretty easy to determine who will win each week, and Vegas is wrong a lot of the time. They aren't trying to predict the game with the line, they are trying to get action on both sides and they know the betting public are a bunch of dumb dumbs. Otherwise Seattle would not be a 5 point favorite tomorrow vs the Saints. Point spreads IMO are completely worthless.

I myself prefer to look at the spread - ML calculator and then looking to see who the biggest differentials are, then take into account who the public is taking and then make my picks from there, but if you go blindly based on point spreads it's going to be a bad time.
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09-21-2019 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
if you go blindly based on point spreads it's going to be a bad time.
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You know I’ve had a good amount of success in these things. But I’m considering going all in on Chicago week 1. If it were week 2 it would be a no brainer for me.
To be fair he changed is mind and took 0 Bears

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this whole trying to gain separation isn't really working. LOL. Burned 5 entries so far on Carolina and Tenn this week.
Eddyyyyyyy
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09-21-2019 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
hmmm, I wonder why. Has anyone in here watched the NFL before? It seems pretty easy to determine who will win each week, and Vegas is wrong a lot of the time. They aren't trying to predict the game with the line, they are trying to get action on both sides and they know the betting public are a bunch of dumb dumbs. Otherwise Seattle would not be a 5 point favorite tomorrow vs the Saints. Point spreads IMO are completely worthless.

I myself prefer to look at the spread - ML calculator and then looking to see who the biggest differentials are, then take into account who the public is taking and then make my picks from there, but if you go blindly based on point spreads it's going to be a bad time.
moneyline spreads are a thing too, though
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09-21-2019 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
hmmm, I wonder why. Has anyone in here watched the NFL before? It seems pretty easy to determine who will win each week, and Vegas is wrong a lot of the time. They aren't trying to predict the game with the line, they are trying to get action on both sides and they know the betting public are a bunch of dumb dumbs. Otherwise Seattle would not be a 5 point favorite tomorrow vs the Saints. Point spreads IMO are completely worthless.
playing survivor seems like a waste of your genius.
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09-21-2019 , 01:17 PM
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playing survivor seems like a waste of your genius.
Why? I win one almost every year.
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09-21-2019 , 01:25 PM
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Why? I win one almost every year.
you'd definitely make way more if you started week 1 with your survivor roll, call it $100, and bet the easy win(s) and then took your new balance week 2, and repeat.
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09-21-2019 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
you'd definitely make way more if you started week 1 with your survivor roll, call it $100, and bet the easy win(s) and then took your new balance week 2, and repeat.
I'm the Mike Tyson of survivor. If I don't win it by week 3 I have no chance. That's why my plays are the way they are. I'm not built for the long haul in a Survivor season.
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09-21-2019 , 02:49 PM
I'm ALLIN on Dallas in entries that I didn't pick them in 1

Taking 0 New England. Looking at 6... I don't have any Baltimore left and I'd rather take Green Bay & Kansas City in later weeks. New England will be the highest favorite that week. I'll probably slam them there.

Taking San Francisco & Tampa Bay with the rest. Tiny sprinkle on Buffalo

Green Bay & Minnesota will be much higher picked than the above teams. I'd rather give up a couple points and hope for the upset to knock out a few extra people. Plus Green Bay & Minnesota have much more playability later on than the other 3
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09-21-2019 , 03:24 PM
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I'm ALLIN on Dallas in entries that I didn't pick them in 1

Taking San Francisco & Tampa Bay with the rest. Tiny sprinkle on Buffalo
Same. Leaning towards only taking one team for my non-Dallas picks since it's not many entries. Thinking Tampa but will decide that part tomorrow.
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09-21-2019 , 09:12 PM
Double picks in 5 & 10. Locked today


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09-22-2019 , 12:09 PM
yolo. i don't even like the tampa pick so much anymore, but figure minny/gb will be overpicked relative to public pick rates. probably not most +ev pick, but still big numbers left.

put 2/3rds of non-dallas picks on tampa, 1/3 on minny. pool dependent.
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09-22-2019 , 12:51 PM
56% DAL
22% NE
22% MIN
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09-22-2019 , 02:22 PM
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Just going to keep taking the free wins while they're available. I just can't rationalize forgoing a 22 point favorite and picking a td favorite in the hopes of a colossal upset.

still have all 4 entries left

3 Cowboys
1 Patriots
cowboys really gonna make me sweat this one huh...lol
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09-22-2019 , 02:26 PM
.03 buy-in at Nitrogen. 87 left to start the week. Picks were:

52 Dallas
13 Minnesota
11 New England
4 Green Bay
3 San Francisco
2 Tampa Bay

2 - didn't pick - these are unique users too, so wonder if there is some sort of glitch.
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09-22-2019 , 02:46 PM
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2 - didn't pick - these are unique users too, so wonder if there is some sort of glitch.
I looked at @nitrogensports twitter last week. Someone was complaining they couldn't pick one of the later games. I think because of week 1 open until last Monday night game, people might not read rules and assume it's the same for following weeks when really they close at 1pm Sunday.
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09-22-2019 , 03:30 PM
Just over here sweating out GB. Went all in on them this week.
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09-22-2019 , 07:26 PM
Unbelievable. Man I'm a fish.
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09-22-2019 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
hmmm, I wonder why. Has anyone in here watched the NFL before? It seems pretty easy to determine who will win each week, and Vegas is wrong a lot of the time. They aren't trying to predict the game with the line, they are trying to get action on both sides and they know the betting public are a bunch of dumb dumbs. Otherwise Seattle would not be a 5 point favorite tomorrow vs the Saints. Point spreads IMO are completely worthless.

I myself prefer to look at the spread - ML calculator and then looking to see who the biggest differentials are, then take into account who the public is taking and then make my picks from there, but if you go blindly based on point spreads it's going to be a bad time.

Pivoted off of TB when I saw the ML drop to -220 from -280. Felt weird. On to Week 5!
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