Thing is Gordon's drives arent helping his teammates as seen by both his career low assist % and assist per game. Defensively he averages under 1 steal per game as a small guard. He averaged 3 assists per game in playoff playing 44 mpg. Basically his numbers suggest that last year he played at peak offensive efficiency for scoring and did nothing else to help his team.

You know why Ben gordon's TS% is high? Cuz he nails FTs. great. Wade was 50% in effective fg% in playoffs. Lebron was 55%. While never passing or defending ben gordon was 47% in effective fg %. Chris paul had lower effective fg % but distributed the ball and made over 2 steals per game.


Detroit is paying him 11 mil per year in an era of declining revenue and cap space.

These are the bets I made:

Boston Celtics Under 56.5 wins. The Celtics aren't nearly as good without Garnett at full speed (check their 2 year adjusted +/- without him) and hes been limping through scrimmages on the training camp channel.

OKC Over 34.5 wins. They started off 2-23 last year and finished 23 - 59. If you assume they can repeat last year's 2nd half performance with 0 improvement, they should win that many games.

Houston Rockets over 35.5 wins. Last year's Houston team excelling in the playoffs was no fluke. Morey knows how to evaluate players and build teams.

Portland Trailblazers over. Portland is a scary good team.

I'd also bet under on the Nuggets win total but I can't bet against my own team Also, can someone please tell George Karl not to play AC and play Ty Lawson? We'd get better just be eliminating AC's inefficient minutes.

I never said Gordon was good at setting up his teammate. The Bulls already have 2 solid PGs in Rose and Hinrich, so they don't really need that. Nor did I say that he was a plus defender. What I said was that he was an efficient scorer, and I disagree that he takes bad shots(or if he does then I don't care since hes still efficient while taking those "bad shots"). Moreover, I found your use of FG% to be meaningless since TS% is a clearly superior and more complete metric.


I have absolutely no clue why you think this is relevant whatsoever. Some players are efficient due to driving ability, some due to jump shots, some ldue to FT shooting, etc. Ultimately it doesn't truly matter though.


Again I have no clue why you chose a worse metric(eFG%) instead of TS%. Can you explain to me why you're doing this?


Yes, and I think it was a horrible signing by Detroit. That doesn't change my opinion that this year's Chicago team is going to miss having his ability to create an efficient shot for himself because they don't have a single other player who can do that(although as I said, Rose has the potential to turn into that player).

You realize that its possible for a player to be both overrated/overpaid and vital to a certain team's success, right?

I believe they should as well, but he could still be a worthwhile asset to a team such as the Spurs who has a coach smart enough (and a team good enough) to sit him during the season and start playing him in the postseason..not really sure who they would trade for him (and def not sayin that they have interest at all), but...

Because I dont see effective FG % as particularly worse. It tells me how he functions in team environment.

I watched Ben Gordon play and given the amount of minutes he gets his scoring within a team environment is good but not great. He does not contribute to the team flow in other ways and overall is a minimal loss to possible gain (not that it matters but per is whopping 16.3). Basically he had no observed effect on +/- for team and in my opinion may be bringing down other players by restricting flow of the ball.