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12-05-2013 , 01:29 AM
MacDonald by dec there.
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12-05-2013 , 02:19 AM
3.6u Andrews (-140) 5d

Hester is not UFC caliber and Andrews has very strong wrestling. He should 30-27 easily or TKO Hester by the 2nd.

Andrews messed up his shoulder against Papi on a spectacular judo throw early in the fight and fought hard with a badly hurt shoulder and 1 arm to TKO Papi in the 3rd. The kid has some serious heart and heavy hands.

This line should be closer to -225 Andrews. He needs to fight smart though and not trade bombs with Hester. If he uses his wrestling and BJJ he wins easily.
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12-05-2013 , 03:10 AM
Puntit you also said maynard would crush diaz easily if you havent seen palelei fight its hard to take your analysis seriously. Barry is a better fighter than his ufc record hes run about 1.5 wins below equity imi (kongo and crocop losses wouldnt happen half the time and were due to a flukeand getting starstruck respectively) in good news turns out sdr didnt die and while in bad shape has improved a bit hope he pulls thru but his mma career will be over regardless id say
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12-05-2013 , 05:50 AM
Sdr career is ldo over. No one will hire him and risk having a death on their show. Dont get all the love on dylan andrews, Hes got some heart but other than that i dont see him having that good of a career in the ufc. Especially at ww considering its one of the most stacked of the higher divisions. Clint hester is the more talented fighter and i see this being more even than ppl think.
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12-05-2013 , 07:01 AM
Gonna bet Bader R1 over Perosh for sure...I just don't see any other way this fight ends than Bader R1 KO.

Alex Garcia got moved like 2 dollars today he's -650 now lol
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12-05-2013 , 01:20 PM
Swoop you heading to weighins etc?
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12-05-2013 , 01:57 PM
Promoting Matchbook

I just got limited by 2 books at the same time. Sportsbook allow $1000 base for mma fight went I 1st signup, now it is $100 base. I contact live help to ask why since I lost every bet on that site, they say it is management decision, than lower me again to $50 base....lol.

At William Hill I want to bet on Mark Hunt at +138. They won't sell Hunt for +138 to me & won't sell Silva for -150....strange business practice. I testing it to see how much I can bet so I bet $1, even $1 bet I need 'trader' approval...lol.


Since I got limited by almost every books excepts Pinny, 5dimes, & BetOnline I found Matchbook. Matchbook is kind of like poker, they take 1% commission for winner & loser (I wish winner pays 1.5%, and loser don't have to pay). Their cash out is fast, less than 12hr using Skrill. 1 free cash out per month, no date or time window long as within a month.


This is how awesome Matchbook is: Antonio Silva vs Mark Hunt
best odd at BFO for Mark Hunt is +130 at SportsInt.
At Matchbook I 'lay' Antonio Silva at -145 for few units & than Silva again -140 for few units.
It is not instant but finally someone took both bet at -145 & -140
So I am getting Mark Hunt at +144 & +139 (+145 minus 1% commission)
If Mark Hunt wins I make +$14 a unit more & +$9 a unit more respectively than the BFO provide. The problem with Matchbook is the traffic seems low for mma but it is getting better since my bet is 'match' faster than I first started.


Check it out. I think you can bet as lowest as $2 so it is not just for professional bettor.
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12-05-2013 , 05:36 PM
Thought you guys might find this interesting,

Met Glen Trowbridge (UFC judge who scored Hendricks gsp correctly) at the gym today. I spoke to him in depth about the judging criteria and lack of 10-10 and 10-7 rounds.

He explained that it is near impossible to give a 10-10 as if all striking and grappling are equal they are expected to then move to aggression and there is almost always one fighter who is pushing the pace.

The 10-8 is given only when one fighter dominates and the opponent offers almost no offense, if a fighter is nearly finished but still lands a takedown or good combo in the round a 10-8 won't typically be given.

10-7 will only be given if the judges feel the ref has made a mistake and the fight should have been stopped. It is basically seen as criticism of the ref and therefore very rare.

Really nice guy, was good of him to spend 15minutes talking me through it.
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12-05-2013 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by elliot10181
Thought you guys might find this interesting,

Met Glen Trowbridge (UFC judge who scored Hendricks gsp correctly) at the gym today. I spoke to him in depth about the judging criteria and lack of 10-10 and 10-7 rounds.

He explained that it is near impossible to give a 10-10 as if all striking and grappling are equal they are expected to then move to aggression and there is almost always one fighter who is pushing the pace.

The 10-8 is given only when one fighter dominates and the opponent offers almost no offense, if a fighter is nearly finished but still lands a takedown or good combo in the round a 10-8 won't typically be given.

10-7 will only be given if the judges feel the ref has made a mistake and the fight should have been stopped. It is basically seen as criticism of the ref and therefore very rare.

Really nice guy, was good of him to spend 15minutes talking me through it.
thx ... good stuff
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12-05-2013 , 05:54 PM


lol saw the pic and just dropped 3 units on hunt @ +125 ^^ thought about the fight a little bit... and if hunt comes in patient in his counter striking mode against silva he should be quite safe against silva. silva took fedor down since fedor has been reckless and on the decline in his last few fights in the us.

lol~ let's hope for the best
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12-05-2013 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by elliot10181
Thought you guys might find this interesting,

Met Glen Trowbridge (UFC judge who scored Hendricks gsp correctly) at the gym today. I spoke to him in depth about the judging criteria and lack of 10-10 and 10-7 rounds.

He explained that it is near impossible to give a 10-10 as if all striking and grappling are equal they are expected to then move to aggression and there is almost always one fighter who is pushing the pace.

The 10-8 is given only when one fighter dominates and the opponent offers almost no offense, if a fighter is nearly finished but still lands a takedown or good combo in the round a 10-8 won't typically be given.

10-7 will only be given if the judges feel the ref has made a mistake and the fight should have been stopped. It is basically seen as criticism of the ref and therefore very rare.

Really nice guy, was good of him to spend 15minutes talking me through it.
So he was the one who scored the main event for Hendricks. But he also scored the MacDonald/Lawler split decision for MacDonald. Not even Rory thinks he won. Media had it 14-0 Lawler.

Cool of him to answer questions like that though, and I'm sure judging is harder than it seems.
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12-05-2013 , 06:11 PM
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So he was the one who scored the main event for Hendricks. But he also scored the MacDonald/Lawler split decision for MacDonald. Not even Rory thinks he won. Media had it 14-0 Lawler.

Cool of him to answer questions like that though, and I'm sure judging is harder than it seems.
I only had money on the Hendricks fight so that's where my focus was

Interestingly he said he'd be happy for scoring to be visible after each round. He said it may effect the fighters strategies but he would be happy for everyone to know where they stood going into the final round.
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12-05-2013 , 06:19 PM
Wow Phan +245, horrid bet by me I guess.
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12-05-2013 , 07:29 PM
Phan +255 is crazy. Not really confident on my read at this point, but i got the true line around +140.. gives me A lot of room for error.
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12-05-2013 , 07:31 PM
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Swoop you heading to weighins etc?
Flying back from Sydney today (was there for a poker tourney, got 2nd in it) so i'll miss weigh ins, will be there for the whole event though

On that note if anyone wants to go and doesn't have tickets I have two spare level 4 tickets (ended up buying 8 and only 5 of my friends wanted to go so got 2 spare), face value $95 each that are better than any seats available
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12-05-2013 , 07:41 PM
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Phan +255 is crazy. Not really confident on my read at this point, but i got the true line around +140.. gives me A lot of room for error.
I was planning to bet Mizugaki but expected him to be -150 or so. I'd cap it at -200 for Mizugaki, but i'm starting to consider a Phan bet now that the price is getting so good

Honestly I don't like this card much for betting because I lean towards most of the non-aussies and want to cheer for the Aussies (and Pat Barry because he's awesome) since i'm going to be there live
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12-05-2013 , 07:47 PM
ok just busted out some spontaneous bets ... bets so far for this card:

mizugaki/phan goes distance 1.9u @ -190
mizugaki by decision 1u @ +325
rua by tko 1u +405
rua in R1 0.5 u +425 (in case of a random sub I guess? xD)
perosh/bader u1.5 1.65u @ -165
Hunt 3u +125
Hunt in R1 1u +275

Barry ITD 1u +820 <-- got deleted

probably will be all ...

Last edited by aim; 12-05-2013 at 08:15 PM. Reason: was rua in R1 0.5 u +425 instead of 1u & deleted Barry itd
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12-05-2013 , 07:49 PM
Barry ITD +820? Seems really good value
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12-05-2013 , 07:53 PM
lol yap... that prop disappeared completely from 5d now lol .. first time I saw that happen. wanted to hit it again after it moved a bit xD
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12-05-2013 , 08:02 PM
Loving Mizugaki dec at +325, I even like it at +150 where it is now I think since this one almost always goes the distance and Mizugaki prob wins around two thirds of the time

Very weird that Phan ITD and Phan Dec lines are actually favourites over Mizugaki equivalent lines, they seem misplaced when Mizugaki is the fav
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12-05-2013 , 08:03 PM
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Barry ITD +820? Seems really good value
Holy wtf i'm depositing four figures onto 5d to make that bet if the line goes back up, I mean if Barry wins it's ITD something like 80% of the time and I think he's a small fav over Palelei

I assume they misplaced this line too and the Barry ITD and Decision lines should be reversed (otherwise smash the Not Barry Dec line as well at close to evens)
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12-05-2013 , 08:09 PM
apparently there was palelei wins in R1 for a brief moment @ +12000 wtf.. according to BFO. why didn't I see that lol xD probably was too excited at the +820 line xD

seems to have been a rookie today? the phan decision prop +116 vs phan straight up at +245 e.g. was weird also.

edit: phan by decision +328 now lol and mizugaki by decision is +115
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12-05-2013 , 08:11 PM
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lol yap... that prop disappeared completely from 5d now lol .. first time I saw that happen. wanted to hit it again after it moved a bit xD
Can you please update whether it goes back up at a ridiculous price again? If it does i'm going to deposit on 5d and smash the line obviously but don't want to deal with the hassle if the line isn't available
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12-05-2013 , 08:14 PM
lol... just got my bet deleted... "reason: clear line error, price should have been -136." so there's that... oh well~ past 1 am and gotta work anyhow~ so good night and see ya tomorrow lol ;D
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12-05-2013 , 08:29 PM
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lol... just got my bet deleted... "reason: clear line error, price should have been -136." so there's that... oh well~ past 1 am and gotta work anyhow~ so good night and see ya tomorrow lol ;D
Yeah pretty sure the dec/itd lines got flipped

I'd be shocked if Mizugaki +3xx dec line doesn't get cancelled too tbh but it seems to have been bet to +150 which is closer to accurate so maybe it was just a soft/bad opener

The Phan props are lol awful compared to the Mizugaki ones so im pretty sure something was misplaced in those as well
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