Anyone else thought Weidman looked a bit tired in the 2nd round, it's not that easy to be able to lay on someone for 5 rounds without roids like sonnen.

He didn't seem tired to me. Just lost on what to do. Anderson was leg kicking him, and dodging his punches at will. Weidman takedowns stuffed. Anderson could probably just leg kick and run the entire fight and win. The speed difference was huge. I couldn't believe it.

[QUOTE]Can you please explain to me what I don't understand about what I saw tonight./QUOTE]

Weidman got the takedown, landed heavy GNP which rocked Silva and then gave up top position for the Kneebar and Heel hooks both of which were very close.

From that point Anderson stopped throwing anything significant, usually from clinch situations his most dangerous weapon is the knee, he had multiple opportunities and didn't use it due to fear of the ground. Yes he stuffed Weidman but thats because he'd stopped real offence and Weidman had to shoot from the outside. Had Silva been throwing he'd have been taken down with ease as he was in the first.

Silva was very upset between rounds once he realised how serious the situation was for him.

The clowning became more and more desperate in an attempt to get Weidman to break away from his gameplan and throw wild shots he could counter without risking the T/D. Weidman wouldn't do this and at some stages was almost walking into Anderson and receiving little offence.

Silva danced out of desperation it looks pretty but it was done because he felt he had no other options.

Yeah, it's a ***** shame, still not over it today that AS lost like that. I wouldn't mind if Weidman actually was the better fighter, but the way that AS lost bugs me(and also Weidman has to rub some salt in it when he mentions God).
Meh, AS simply didn't hespect Weidmans power. Weidmans standup is pretty average, he reminds me a bit of Ryan Bader on the feet. This is the equivalence of Bader KO'ing Machida when they fought, but Machida doesn't **** around, he gets the job done. Instead of AS doing precisely what Machida did, Weidman basically lunged forward with a pathetic punching combination and the opening was there for AS to just slip in a punch and KO him.
Truth be told, I think he's lost a bit of his reflexes, he didn't calculate correctly how far away he needed to be to do the moves he did.

lol Weidman throws WAY straighter punches than Bader.

Agree, I feel like I just witnessed the death of Anderson, and I'm not even sure if he was the worst fighter. If Weidman would have sub'd him, or lay n prayed 5 rounds, I would be able to accept that. I feel we were robbed of that fight (as it was a very intriguing matchup) and robbed of the day we finally see someone out fight Anderson.

Taking nothing away from Weidman, who did exactly what he set out to do, it's just so ****ty the way it happened.

I disagree with you that silva's lost his reflexes, it took Weidman about 5 min to find Andersons chin, when his hands were down and standing flat footed. The ability to move like that, and figure out someones timing to that extent is why he will still go down as the GOAT of mma. Unfortunately he got clipped, when you think about it, Bonnar could have done the same. Both his and Weidmans speed were about equal.

I really hope they do this rematch, and silva comes in with his game face on. See if this was a GSP/Serra moment, or if Weidman truly is the real deal (hard to argue he isn't, but does he have what it takes to beat the p4p best in the world 2 times?)

For those that claimed Anderson clearly was superior based on this fight;

No he looked like he was waiting for opportunities to me.

It's definitely easier to lay on top of someone than have someone lay on top of you.
I'd guess Anderson would tire before Weidman in such a fight.

koach me?

It's hard to figure out what was going through AS's head since he's such an eccentric personality.

I think elliot's view on the fight is way off. AS never clowned on the fighters he views as threats like Franklin, Vitor, Chael, Hendo. The only time we've ever seen him in desperation mode was the first Chael fight and he was all business.

I think it comes down to some sort of need to put on a spectacular show for the fans or wanting to create some OMG legacy moment by making another fighter look like he doesn't belong in the cage with him. Either way he did it against the wrong guy in Weidman.

Still, something feels so stupid about the GOAT losing like that. Maybe this what he needed to get back into it mentally. Who knows.

I think it's just the evolution of Silva and his confidence/training.

From the footage i've seen, he practices hands down in training. He sees it working in training so he tries it in a real fight....Success. Positive feedback.

Okay it works. lets keep doing it.

Thanks for the reply elliot now I am 100% sure you are trolling or just have no clue what you are talking about.

I stopped reading your post after you said "silva got rocked by Weidmans ground and pound". LOL

100% not trolling, I obviously know very little about MMA

It usually works out for him because he has good timing and good head movement, and he usually does it different, he rolls with the punches and he always sees them coming so that's why we rarely see him getting rocked, he also has his chin tucked in. The reason he got rocked here is bc he did the matrix thing when u dodge bullets, but the problem was that his head was tilted and not tucked in, he usually keeps his chin tucked in when he's rolling with the punches. Also bc of the angle of his head, he didn't see the hook and it's always the punches u dont see that rock you. Was the same thing with the Sonnen fight, AS anticipated a takedown and then Sonnen came upstairs with a right.

You did spew a lot of bs in that post though. I mean, what do you know what AS was thinking? The times he's clowned around have been in fights where he felt superior, like the Maia and Bonnar fight.

No one can be sure, but there are many similar theories on other forums (mma.tv) I'm certainly not the only one with this point of view.

It's no different to the assumption that he was clowning to impress the crowd or display dominance all of these things are just theories.

Part of my job is as a MMA mindset coach so it's not like I'm coming at this from a position of limited experience.

Hm, I'm not sure about the "rocked part" with the GnP, but AS definitely didn't wanna play that game anymore. The shots did hurt and with the leg lock attempt he probably saw flashbacks of the chonan fight lol... And usually AS clowns around a bit and then hits the mark (aside of the weird Maia and Leites fights - who are brazilian) . He was clearly clowning too much without much of an offense ... at one point Weidman even just slowly plodded forward initiating the clinch without anybody throwing any strikes!

what's the argument about.

Clearly Anderson believes in his talent.

btw where's swoop at

oh nice, miesha tate body issue pic

In case anyone missed/wants to re-watch fight

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/fight...art_2/10054924

Solid

Early looks for next fight:

Moraga +340 looks good, guy has solid power and Johnson gets clipped way too much for my liking. He recovers well and has great cardio but it's gonna catch up with him at some point.

Ellenberger +200 we've already discussed a bit ITT.

Maybe a Danzig sub prop? But Guillard should really win this.

Mitrione looks good good -125, Schaub's chin just can't be trusted, and odds are Mitrione clips him at some point.

Masvidal should definitely beat Chiesa but this is like the 8th time I've said that the guy keeps winning.

Not sure about Siyar vs Lawler, any thoughts? Thinking Bahadurzada, I mean Lawler just gets eaten up by good strikers, all depends on if Siyar can take the counterstrike.

Ellenberger bet of that card!

dana plz offer anderson millions to fight weidman again i cant see my hero go out like this

disagree, ellenberger always gas.
It's too bad because i would love for him to win.