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02-22-2012 , 06:24 AM
Yeah Lee wasn't impressive in his last fight and he's 11-7 he's supposed to be a can for Kid to crush, but Kid sucks so bad too these days
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02-22-2012 , 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PiercE
I can spot you if you need, i have bodog account feelin to throw few hundy on Bart right now .
Nah its all good thanks for the offer though

I'm gonna give it a day or so for the lines to settle and reevaluate i guess - Bart is only 6 cents off the best price at pinny and pinny currently has the best Hioki line available so i wouldnt be surprised if I can get the same price on bart later today
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02-22-2012 , 08:37 AM
anyone knows how I can access bodog.com or .eu instead of .co.uk since the only fighting lines I can see is Rampage and Edgar.
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02-22-2012 , 12:40 PM
Just some basic MMA math here, if the fight is standing up, Yamamoto wins, if Vaughan lee tries to wrestle and grind out a decision, Lee wins.
Tried watching their last fights but the vids weren't available on mma-geeks. I did however see Yamamotos fight with Johnson and Joe Warren(1st round) and I assume his last fight with Darren went the same. Basically Johnson was the faster striker with good takedowns. He basically mixed in and out movement with takedowns and since Yamamoto doesn't have very good TDD or is that fast, he spent a big part on his back earning him a dec loss.
I think Yamamotos last 4 fights have been very bad matchups for him, especially the 2 he got in UFC, vs one of the best wrestlers at that division and vs a decent grappler.

I don't know how fast or athletic Lee is, he looks quite alright though in those areas. I think if his gameplan is to strike just enough to set up his takedowns/push yamamoto against the cage, he has a very good chance of earning a unan dec. Btw, I think this fight may go the distance as I don't see Lee finishing Yamamoto, though I think if Lee tries to stand up with him, he might get KO/TKO'd or submitted after a flurry of punches. It all depends imo what Lee's gameplan is, if you think he's going to grind out a decision by attempting to get the fight to the floor or push him against the cage, I'd bet Lee, but if you think he's just going to strike w Yamamoto, I wouldn't bet this fight.
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02-22-2012 , 01:20 PM
Lee is +300 I think he can get the UD at least a quarter and probably more like half, Kid was awful against Darren Uyewhatever

Also don't mind the Issei Tamura apparently he's a decent wrestler/grappler according to a guy who watched his fights and could easily get a UD and hes +250 (this is secondhand info so take with a grain of salt)
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02-22-2012 , 01:55 PM
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Anyone think Bader might do the same he did to Nogueira or Rampage has too good TDD?
Jon Jones struggled to get Rampage down so I don't think Bader can do it.

I jumped all over Rampage at -170, I think the true line is somewhere between -275 and -300. I don't think Bader can get takedowns and I think Rampage's boxing is well ahead of Bader's.
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02-22-2012 , 06:56 PM
Kongo/Hunt is even money to complete 2 rounds on Bodog...thoughts on this line? Hunt has only been finished by strikes by Manhoef, and if Kongo is going to win this (and he's a 3:1 fave) it will probably be a 30-27 type dec where he uses his ugly takedowns and GnP.
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02-22-2012 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by just_mo
Kongo/Hunt is even money to complete 2 rounds on Bodog...thoughts on this line? Hunt has only been finished by strikes by Manhoef, and if Kongo is going to win this (and he's a 3:1 fave) it will probably be a 30-27 type dec where he uses his ugly takedowns and GnP.
Sound's like a good bet, unless anyone doesn't get KO'd/subbed in the first two rounds, we'll prolly see a decision.
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02-22-2012 , 07:56 PM
Fu*k I'm so pumped for bendo vs edgar, going to be such a good fight. I don't really root for anyone, I just want a good fight. If bendo can cut of edgars movement with good leg kicks and outwrestle him, I see him having a real good shot of winning.
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02-22-2012 , 08:06 PM
More excited for Lauzon vs Pettis here lol. If Edgar beats Henderson, I expect to be yawning by the third round, but we'll see. This whole card is basically a hardcore fan's wet dream, though I'm not sure there is going to be any casual interest...
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02-22-2012 , 08:34 PM
What do you guys think about Cantwell/Fukida?
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02-22-2012 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by just_mo
More excited for Lauzon vs Pettis here lol. If Edgar beats Henderson, I expect to be yawning by the third round, but we'll see. This whole card is basically a hardcore fan's wet dream, though I'm not sure there is going to be any casual interest...
I think some of the fights are meh though, like Akiyama vs Shields, not a very interesting fight in terms of either fighter heading somewhere, same for Okami vs Boetsch, they need way lots of more wins if they would even be thinking about a titleshot nor are they very interesting to watch. Kongo vs Hunt isn't that interesting either, Kongo the higher ranked fighter isn't really that close to a title shot and I have a feeling Kongo is going to turn it into a very boring fight. He's become a lot more tentative after the Mir and Barry fight. Same for Rampage vs Bader, I think Bader is going to turn it into a boring fight.
I mainly look forward to Bendo vs Edgar bc they both posses good skills both in the standup and on the ground. They're both very good overall fighters with no apparent leaks. And also Pettis vs Lauzon.
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02-22-2012 , 08:47 PM
going to be gnarly to hear how the crowd reacts, could be the quietest ufc ever. this main event is soooo close, i love frankie but im leaning towards bendo.
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02-22-2012 , 09:44 PM
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What do you guys think about Cantwell/Fukida?
Fukuda should roll him. And Kongo and Shields fights I agree could be boring if they win. Don't really see Bader/Rampage being a bad fight though. Hioki/Bartimus fight should be fun as well.
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02-23-2012 , 04:58 PM
anyone have thoughts on Gomi v. late replacement Mitsuoka?
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02-24-2012 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PiercE
going to be gnarly to hear how the crowd reacts, could be the quietest ufc ever. this main event is soooo close, i love frankie but im leaning towards bendo.
I quite like Edgar/Bendo for FOTN, same w/ Pettis/Lauzon. I just feel like Frankie will find a way to win like he always does

Getting quite pumped for this card, I can't wait
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02-24-2012 , 03:30 AM
FWIW I like edgar, rampage, kongo, lauzon, akiyama, okami, palaszewski, lee, fukuda and tamura side of lines at current odds (although lauzon and akiyama both win less than half the time imo theyre slightly +EV at odds). Don't like either side of the Gomi and Mizugaki fights that much but i'd lean Mizugaki and Gomi but dont see too much value at current price.

Lee and Tamura should be solid value as underdogs and all of the other favourites listed should win.

I'll post my final bets before the event, so far I have 1u Rampage Okami Kongo Edgar Palaszewski and partials on the rest of the guys mentioned except Fukuda who I might get a unit on by the end or put in some parlays.
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02-24-2012 , 05:29 AM
Got smth little on Akiyama and Hunt for the sweat, + I think both have a way of winning, though we'll probably see a 29/28 decision to shields, he loses first round but Akiyama gasses the next 2. And Hunt gets pushed/double legged all night long for either a 2nd round tko or if he's durable, 30/27 fight to kongo.

Also Have on Bart and Pettis to win. Just going by some MMA math here, Pettis 29/28 or 30/27, depending if Lauzon wins first round. Can't really go against someone that has never been submitted/TKO'd in his career, has technical good striking, goes 3 rounds with ease against someone who on the contrary has very bad conditioning issues. From what I've seen, we won't have that melvin guillard factor here, basically pettis being stupid and him also having a weak chin/zero subdefense.

Bart is a beast on the feet and I feel if he can stuff Hiokis takedowns he has a very solid chance of winning, especially after Hiokis bad performance against roop. Bart's standup is pretty one dimensional, but it fits this type of fight, he doesn't really throw many leg kicks but has vicious hands and a killer instinct second to none.
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02-24-2012 , 07:48 AM
Put another half unit on bart, and additional partials on tamura and lee
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02-24-2012 , 02:28 PM
Got Fukuda -250, Rampage/Pettis parlay, 1/2 unit on Bart +155, Kongo/Hunt completes 2 rounds prop, Pettis -240.
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02-24-2012 , 05:26 PM
For Swoop
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02-24-2012 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by just_mo
Thanks, can't wait for Frankie to pull off another miracle

Also added a bit on Kongo, Mizugaki, Edgar, Rampage and Tamura
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02-24-2012 , 06:38 PM
i have plays on bendo/louzon/bart
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02-25-2012 , 12:33 AM
rampage over weight whats up with that
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02-25-2012 , 12:55 AM
Ya just saw this ugh...I figured he woulda been motivated going back to fight in front of the fans he claims he loves. Pathetic. This is gonna be an awful fight.
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