Hernandez gives off a bit of a Jon Jones vibe .
Seems arrogant as **** and that fake glove touch into a push kick he did against Dariush was a pretty shady thing to do.

I'm not betting this fight but would enjoy seeing Cerrone land a big knee or kick and shutting him off.

I didn't even know the guys name but I do remember that incident and I was not impressed. With that in mind 1 unit on Cerrone.

It wasn't even a fake glove touch. It just looked like one and the announcers went on and on about it like it was one but it's pretty clear that he was in a fighting stance and had no intention of touching gloves, fake or otherwise.



That being said, I support fake glove touches 100%. This touching glove crap is stupid. Protecting yourself at all times is still a thing.

I’m a very casual mma fan (closer to “not a fan at all” than anything else really) and i am shocked to be seeing Greg Hardy as a co-main event AND a huge favorite! Is he really that good or am I missing something?

Really you think touching gloves is stupid?
I think its awesome when fighters can put aside the fact they are trying to beat the hell out of each other and show respect for a brief moment.

It shows a great level of emotional control.

Whilst soccer players are getting tapped on the leg and pretending they have been shot. Its cool that in mma for the most part there is still a decent level of sportsmanship and respect shown.

From what little I ahve seen, Hardy is extremely green, he has no good fundamentals at all, he can barely through a leg kick for christ sake. I can only imagine how bad is ground game is going to be.

His opponent is no world beater but at these odds, you'd have to be crazy not to bet the underdog, given that he's got 10+ fights and years of experience.

Hardy got KO power that's it. I realise it's Heavy Weight, so 1 punch and it's lights out.

I think many people don't understand fighting as a sport! You think they are emotional because they are about to fight? It's a sport like no other, emotions don't come into it.

It's like saying I think it's great that chess players shake each others hand before that start their match, it's shows a great level of emotional control!

This was what i thought as well..but surely the oddsmakers aren’t THAT far off. He must be more legit than we think

Sometimes they are way off, see it happen almost every week.

For all I know the bookies are banking on the fact that most bettors are idiots! Most casuals are going to bet Hardy because of his name, NFL etc. This is just a theory but it wouldn't surprise me at all.

Then give him super bad odds, make him look like a huge fav, the casual bettor thinks, how can he lose! All just a theory though.

With that said, his opponent is no world beater either, so I am half thinking Hardy KO's him, but I really could care less when I get odds like this. It's almost free money betting the underdog!

His potential is huge. Is he good enough to be a co-main? No, he's a co-main because he's a big name.

Also, keep in mind the HW division is very thin in talent relative to other divisions. This isn't unprecedented either. Brock Lesnar co-main evented a UFC PPV vs a former UFC Champion in his first UFC Fight (2nd overall fight, his 1st being against a 2-5 fighter).

CM Punk had no potential whatsoever and no fights under his belt and yet he was in the 3rd biggest fight of a UFC PPV.

Boxing great James Toney co-mained a UFC PPV despite having no MMA experience. Conor Mcgregor main evented the largest PPV of all time, a boxing match co-promoted by the UFC even though Conor had no boxing experience (outside of training)

It's ok if you want to do it but I think fighters should exploit it to the fullest and you really have noone to blame but yourself if you have your guard down. BTW, this incident shows how stupid glove touching can be. Alex wasn't trying to glove touch and yet now he's a villain because he came out fighting.

Fighters should be under no obligation to touch gloves. James Thompson's strategy was to come out like a missile and just start banging immediately. He shouldn't have to change his strategy because some dude wants to be buddy buddy. From a fan's perspective there are some really exciting things that can happen right out of the gate but that's completely thrown out the window when 2 guys decide to just go to the center and touch gloves.

The biggest problem with glove touching is when they do it over and over. You wanna do it one time, ok but we don't need it to start every round and we most certainly don't need it in the middle of rounds where these guys start smiling at each other and even hugging each other. It just gets silly.

In the UFC odds are often way off especially in high profile fights. Rousey was somehow a favorite vs Nunes which made no logical sense whatsoever. The Conor vs Floyd odds were even more ridiculous.

I actually fought in mma and kickboxing so I do think I understand it pretty well. Not sure what your point is? because of course some fighters will fight with emotion. Whilst others won't bring any emotion into at all.

Khabib is obviously super disciplined but when he was wailing on Conor and saying "why don't we talk now". That's bringing emotion into the cage. There are countless other examples.

Anyway feel like I am getting off topic.

My point was in a sport that is often viewed as wild and barbaric. It is cool to see two fighters show mutual respect for each other.

Good luck to everyone betting tonight.

Does this sound strange to you, if somebody wrote this? It's like saying I think it's great that chess players shake each others hand before that start their match, it's shows a great level of emotional control!

You are now re-writing what you initially wrote, idc either way, not having a go, it was just strange.

Sure some/most still fight with emotion, which is a big mistake, a mistake in any sport at the highest level.

My point was how you wrote it. I don't think it has anything to do with showing emotional control at all. It's no different than shaking your opponents hand in any sport, be it chess, tennis, pool, snooker etc etc. There's no difference really, is there.

UFN 143 on ESPN+ 1 Risk $6,716.46

Henry Cejudo (+190) vs T.J. Dillashaw $100.00 for $190.00
Henry Cejudo +5½ points (-105) $105.00 for $100.00
Henry Cejudo/T.J. Dillashaw Over 4½ (-122) $122.00 for $100.00

Greg Hardy/Allen Crowder Under 1½ (-286) $285.71 for $100.00

Gregor Gillespie/Yancy Medeiros Over 1½ (-122) $122.00 for $100.00

Dustin Ortiz (+210) vs Joseph Benavidez $100.00 for $210.00
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Paige VanZant (-160) vs Rachael Ostovich $320.00 for $200.00
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Glover Teixeira (-105) vs Karl Roberson $210.00 for $200.00
Glover Teixeira (-116) vs Karl Roberson $232.56 for $200.00
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Ariane Lipski (-185) vs Joanne Calderwood $370.00 for $200.00
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Te Edwards (-118) vs Dennis Bermudez $236.00 for $200.00
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Geoff Neal (-175) vs Belal Muhammad $175.44 for $100.00

Kyle Stewart (-160) vs Chance Rencountre $160.00 for $100.00

Belal is a tough mothafukaa. But that went pretty much as expected.

I had a feeling the wrestling wouldn't be canceled out, lets hope Bermudez doesn't get robbed or ****s it up.

The round 1 takedown was inexperience on Te's part. After that it was mostly lack of heart and eventually a lack of gas tank.

Good for Bermudez to go out on a win.

Im looking forward to the Hardy fight, have a feeling we are going to see a big upset, I know for a fact he has 0 ground game, if Crowder makes it a wrestling game and can avoid the 1st round KO, I'm convinced he'll finish or dec him.

Im going big on Hernandez, think his pressure is just too much, Cowboy going to roll into a little ball and give up. I'll likely hedge with a Cowboy finish in R2/3. I think he's the real deal, think he get it done.

I like it..the Hernandez bet that is. The Crowder bet is fine, but I'll be really shocked if Hardy loses.

Good call on Bermudez/Edwards.

I'm on pvz -155 tj at -215 shoulda got better I suck and tj too +200

Quite confident today let's do it

Cowboy sub scares me lol.

Hernandez dope tho.

Gonna go Hernandez last second I think

Joanne Calderwood surprised with the ground game.