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01-16-2017 , 01:20 PM
You think Wonderboy is going into this fight scared? I'm in 2 minds, he says he will be more aggressive and he himself pointed out that it was a mistake being so passive in their first fight. It will be interesting to see if he comes out more aggro. Which in turn might result in him getting finished.

Although he might think he should be more aggro it will leave him so much more exposed. Should be interesting to see the adjustments and if they work.

For what its worth I don't think Wonderboy is a fav here, its coinflip imo.
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01-16-2017 , 02:13 PM
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You think Wonderboy is going into this fight scared? I'm in 2 minds, he says he will be more aggressive and he himself pointed out that it was a mistake being so passive in their first fight. It will be interesting to see if he comes out more aggro. Which in turn might result in him getting finished.

Although he might think he should be more aggro it will leave him so much more exposed. Should be interesting to see the adjustments and if they work.

For what its worth I don't think Wonderboy is a fav here, its coinflip imo.
Agree on it's being a flip. If I have to bet I'm going to take the dog if it gets to +120 either way, but pretty confident there are better spots to get my money in so it won't be much.
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01-16-2017 , 02:56 PM
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You think Wonderboy is going into this fight scared? I'm in 2 minds, he says he will be more aggressive and he himself pointed out that it was a mistake being so passive in their first fight. It will be interesting to see if he comes out more aggro. Which in turn might result in him getting finished.

Although he might think he should be more aggro it will leave him so much more exposed. Should be interesting to see the adjustments and if they work.

For what its worth I don't think Wonderboy is a fav here, its coinflip imo.
I don't think he will go in scared, he didn't go in scared the last time, but every kick he throws leaves him vulnerable to takedowns and he has got nothing for woodley on the ground, so he will be cautious with it. Thompson's defence in the pocket is also not very good, I think Woodley could catch him again like he did the last time in one of his explosive flurries. I think this article outlined Thompson's vulnerabilities quite well (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/11/9...ephen-thompson) I just didn't see anything in the first fight that makes me think Wonderboy is gonna win now. Like Thompson could become more agressive but it will leave him more exposed which is a very dangerous tactic vs Woodley.
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01-16-2017 , 05:28 PM
He didn't go in scared but he he certainly got scared during the fight imo! Perhaps not scared but definitely hesitant and way more aware. He was reluctant to carry out his own game plan ie out-point him. He got way to wary of Woodley, giving him too much freedom in there.

He could ramp up the aggression by 10-20% just add more volume, let Woodley be less comfortable, more on the defensive. In their last fight I felt Wonderboy gave him too much freedom. Part of that is obv because he got cracked several times I assume.

This time round I think Wonderboy will be much more prepared as a result if Woodley does not wrestle him to death, I think Wonderboy might have him this time.

Again though it is a complete coin toss. We are all well aware of Woodley's power, as a result Wonderboy might be even more afraid and while he has a very big heart, his chin and confidence might be weaker as a result.

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01-16-2017 , 10:45 PM
Should we expect to see more wrestling out of Woodley this time around? He pretty much abandoned it after the 1st round last time if i remember correctly.
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01-17-2017 , 06:13 AM
I'm pretty sure he gasses himself out when he wrestles tbh, that's why he does not use it much. If not I don't see why he does not use it more to win rounds.

I mean if he's ok to wrestle more, he should imo, I think Wonderboy will be far better prepared, he's a smart guy and will be adjusting accordingly. Those bombs might not land anymore and Wonderboy should be picking him apart standing up. Much like we thought he would in the 1st fight.

One thing I think Wonderboy will be or should I say should be doing is pressuring him up to the cage. He does not like that at all and he does not seem to be as explosive with bombs when his back is up against the cage. Wonderboy should also be looking to put him away, his chin is weak as ****, it does not need much! I know he said he does not look for the KO, but imo he should be!

He should be way more aggro, in his face, constantly pressuring him up to the cage!
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01-17-2017 , 07:51 AM
I think you are underestimating how quickly Woodley can close distance, that is why Wonderboys is so tentative.
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01-17-2017 , 09:20 AM
I've seen his speed, funny thing is we know exactly what is coming (the overhand right) yet it hits every time! Must be frustrating to deal with such speed but I do think Woodley is less aggro and less explosive once he is up against the fence. With his back on the fence he is much less likely to catch Wonderboy, plus Wonderboy will be doing all the hitting and Woodley will be defending a lot more.

Thats my take on it, Wonderboy needs to be the aggressor, so Woodley has less of chance to throw those big bombs.
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01-18-2017 , 04:57 PM
Valentina -110 2u
Holm -110 2u
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01-18-2017 , 05:25 PM
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Valentina -110 2u
Holm -110 2u
I actually bet on Pena and de Randamie
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01-19-2017 , 05:26 AM
Torn on the women's fights.i did tell pena in Vegas I'd continue betting her in every fight enroute to the title and she said that was a good idea... But Shevchenko so impressive. Slow starter though. No idea what to make of either women's fight.

Def taking wonderboy and khabib. I think wonderboy wins any round woodley doesn't control him on the ground or land a bomb in and that's 3 plus rounds most fights. Still think wonderboys more likely to finish too. Khabib I expect to ragdoll Tony and his sub game too good to get darce choked.
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01-19-2017 , 08:28 AM
what's your minimum edge requirements?
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01-19-2017 , 11:00 PM
mousasi vs weidman, I guess weidman can retire after this fight,
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01-19-2017 , 11:40 PM
And Mousasi should say "Go home and be a family man." for his victory speech.
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01-20-2017 , 01:40 AM
Odds for Glory 37 Los Angeles tomorrow just released by 5Dimes. Favorite Robin van Roosmalen missed weight and got stripped of his featherweight title, which is still on the line for challenger Matt Embree on Fight Pass. In the middleweight title fight the challenger Israel Adesanya is actually the slight favorite over veteran Glory champion Jason Wilnis. Heavyweight Guto Inocente is a big favorite but came in looking soft in the mid-section to my eye.

GLORY 37 LOS ANGELES
The Novo by Microsoft
Los Angeles, CA
Friday, January 20

Main Card (1:00 a.m. ET, ESPN3)

Middleweight Title:
Jason Wilnis +120
Israel Adesanya -160

Heavyweight Fight:
D’Angelo Marshall +235
Guto Inocente -315

Superfight Series (10:30 pm. ET, Fight Pass)

Featherweight Title:
Matt Embree +265
Robin van Roosmalen -385
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01-20-2017 , 08:58 AM
Fight Outright: Hisaki Kato vs Ralek Gracie

Hisaki Kato 1/3 £90.00 Returns -£120.00


I don't like betting -300 ,but Kato is a lock and a free money pick up?
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01-20-2017 , 03:31 PM
I am also on Kato at the same price.
Pretty crazy that Ralek hasn't fought for 7 years and I rate Kato quite highly.

Pretty tempted by Tito at 2.8. Steam has been pretty heavy on Sonnen not sure why exactly.

Tito rumoured to have an injury or something?
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01-20-2017 , 07:36 PM
I'm big on Tito at +170 and +185. He's much bigger than Chael who is moving up to 205 pounds here and been more active lately. Chael is coming off a forced three year hiatus, off the sauce if the reports of his recent testing are accurate and he looked soft in the middle at the weigh-ins. Also stabbed Tito by 3 round decision, and Tito wins in round 1 at big odds. I also like Paul Daley at -120 over Brennan Ward. Daley made weight and looked good at the weigh-ins and Ward promised to "bang it out" instead of wrestling which favors a technical striker like Daley.
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01-20-2017 , 10:45 PM
Taking a stab on all the dogs tonight, especially with RvR missing weight and getting his title stripped on the scale.

Glory 37 Risk $239.38

Jason Wilnis (+120) vs Israel Adesanya $50.00 for $60.00
D'Angelo Marshall (+235) vs Guto Inocente $50.00 for $117.50
Matt Embree (+265) vs Robin van Roosmalen $100.00 for $265.00
Zoila Frausto (+270) vs Daniela Graf ~$39.38 for ~$106.33

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I still haven't watched the first LFA card from last week, but with Chico Camus up at bantamweight for this bout against a pretty tricky submission fighter, I'm taking a stab on the dog at +350.

LFA 2 Risk $50.00

Darrick Minner (+350) vs Chico Camus $50.00 for $175.00
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01-21-2017 , 01:41 AM
Added more on Wilnis with the small ring in play tonight:

Jason Wilnis (-115) vs Israel Adesanya $115.00 for $100.00
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01-21-2017 , 03:24 AM
Took Chael for a unit at -175

Can't help but feel like size and steroids aside he should have more left in the tank than Tito and i've backed Tito more often than not in his last 10 fights or so. Was going to pass but with him steaming out to -195 at most books I got on at one of the books that hadn't moved yet. Not in love with the price or fading Jim's side, but I did like Chael originally at -155 and now that he's steaming hard i'm hoping it's not casual fan money and that maybe Tito has had a bad camp or has a cracked skull like usual or whatever. I think Chael can make him quit and if he doesn't get taken down and GnP'd in the first by Tito he should win.

Not expecting to have any multi unit plays until Wonderboy and Khabib on that card.
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01-21-2017 , 07:08 AM
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And Mousasi should say "Go home and be a family man." for his victory speech.
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01-21-2017 , 02:10 PM
Got Tito at +170 just because Jim said so.

- also, I've always thought Sonnen is complete toilet.

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01-21-2017 , 08:09 PM
Bellator 170 Risk $880.00

Tito Ortiz (+170) vs Chael Sonnen $200.00 for $340.00
Tito Ortiz (+185) vs Chael Sonnen $100.00 for $185.00
Tito Ortiz wins in round 1 (+1375) $20.00 for $275.00
Tito Ortiz wins by 3 round decision (+250) $40.00 for $100.00

Paul Daley (-120) vs Brennan Ward $120.00 for $100.00
Paul Daley (-110) vs Brennan Ward $110.00 for $100.00
Paul Daley wins inside distance (+110) $50.00 for $55.00
Paul Daley wins by 3 round decision (+1018) $20.00 for $203.60

Georgi Karakhanyan (-120) vs Emmanuel Sanchez $120.00 for $100.00

Parlay:
Derek Anderson (-235) vs Derek Campos + Ralek Gracie/Hisaki Kato Under 1½ (-240) $100.00 for $101.95


Titan FC 43 Risk $157.75

Jose Torres (+113) vs Pedro Nobre ~$101.75 for ~$114.98
Valdir Araujo/Preston Parsons Over 1½ (-140) $56.00 for $40.00
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01-21-2017 , 10:35 PM
What a little more action took

Paul Daley to win match at 1 (+100)
stake £125.00 to return £250.

Stomach pains making this bet ffs, spider senses are saying Brennan Ward, what ever, on paper its a solid bet, daily is a whole other level.

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