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07-07-2014 , 03:18 AM
Old joke.

Q. How do you get a poker player off your doorstep?
A. Pay him for the pizza
07-07-2014 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Inzaghi
Sorry in advance for the de-rail.

I'm not a tennis expert but there hardly seems to be any surprises at the top-level. Do correct me if i'm wrong but it appears that Nadal, Federer, Murray and Djokovic are the only title hopes, tournament after tournament. You had guys like Nikolay Davydenko who was particularly strong in the latter half of 2000-2010 but who's only major title was a Davis Cup win in 2006. An entity equivalent to Davydenko's skills would have every chance to win a football tournament or golf (because golf is so random), but not tennis for some reason. Due to the predictable nature of the game, is it not difficult to find value bets? Again, referring to top-level tennis here.
You can bet on individual matches, not necessarily only tournament winner. Also, there can still be value even if the same 4 people are winning most tournaments
07-08-2014 , 07:35 PM
But what about before Djokovic was Djokovic? Would you bet him then? Or wait until after he was Djokovic?
07-10-2014 , 11:28 PM
http://pena.lt/y/2013/02/07/applying...s-to-football/

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Using Least Squares I optimized the value of k to minimize the error of the predicted outcomes versus the actual match results using data from the English Premier League. Overall, the most accurate predictions were obtained using a value of 15 for k.
How do I do this? Can't find info on this anywhere .. googling/youtubing 'least squares in excel' didn't really help either.
07-11-2014 , 12:44 AM
It's just minimizing the sum of (predicted outcome - actual match)^2. You can do it in Excel using Solver or manually through guess and check.
07-13-2014 , 01:05 PM
where is rsigley? is he betting the world cup?
07-19-2014 , 07:07 AM
Bet365 completely asleep at the wheel in the FIBA Asia Cup Bronze medal game. They lived streamed it, and it was a back and forth super excited ending with lots of time outs and chances for bets.

Amazing finish too. Philippines who didn't lead the entire game once, has ball with like half a minute left down 2 and tries a 3-pointer and misses. 4 second difference shot to game clock decides to play defense down 2. With 6 seconds left in the game makes a good foul as big man drives in for lay-up or dunk. He misses BOTH free-throws. Philippines rebounds with no time out and rushes down the court with 6 seconds to play and with no time left on the clock tries to take a desperation 3 point attempt and gets fouled. He makes all 3 free-throw to give them their first lead of the game with 0:00 left winning them the bronze.

During all of this including time it was stopped for free-throw before China took lead, his 2 -misses and the ending, live betting was showing the odds but was suspended lol. Makes no sense to live stream it, have odds, then not let anyone bet.
07-21-2014 , 02:08 PM
Is there a difference between Asian handicap -0.5 and -0.75 in soccer? I'm a newbie at sports betting and I don't get it how does it make a difference?

EDIT: never mind I just had to do a little googling..

Last edited by Salats; 07-21-2014 at 02:13 PM.
07-23-2014 , 11:37 AM
hope this is ok to post...i built a website where you can enter Power Rankings and Home Field Advantages for every CFB team and it will generate spreads for every game for 2014. May help a few of you. http://radiant-forest-9223.herokuapp.com/
07-24-2014 , 11:26 AM
Instead of power rankings use RSW totals, convert those to each game's avg expected win%, add/subtract HFA for each game, and get an avg home/away win probability, apply log5 to each matchup, convert win% to spread and boom you have RSW implied point spreads for all games.
07-24-2014 , 12:26 PM
not a bad idea, tomg. my next step was converting spreads to win% and making your own RSW's automatically as I have beaten the RSW markets for several years using this methodology.
07-26-2014 , 02:00 AM
You're feeling pretty good. Just finished lifting weights, a little weak after a few weeks off but not terrible. The sun is shining, there's a cool breeze going, and the palm trees look nice and green. Even won some bets yesterday.

Living the dream.

Never mind the ants on your desk, or the ****-stained toilet paper sitting in a trash can in the bathroom. Never mind the barbed wire fence outside your building, and actually having to use the safe so your ladyfriend won't steal from you. Never mind the bum walking around with no pants on, and the people who dig through the trash and scatter it on the sidewalks every night. Never mind the barred windows, the broken stoplights, open sewers, "Not For Sale" signs.

You are living the dream.
07-26-2014 , 07:36 AM
sounds like my kinda spot
07-26-2014 , 03:55 PM
Just bought my first piece of property, you guys. Im moving up in the world.

Ive always wanted a ticker in my TV room to show lines like a stock ticker. Have any of you degens ever done that?
07-26-2014 , 05:45 PM
There are a few commercial options that supposedly feature betting odds, but they're prob from some arbitrary unidentified source. Better to go w/ some sort of custom status board.
07-26-2014 , 06:41 PM
Poogs,

Let me guess. you bought a new or semi-new condo.
07-26-2014 , 06:47 PM
yup
07-27-2014 , 12:14 PM
poogs how did you get enough money to buy a condo?
07-27-2014 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by n00b590
You're feeling pretty good. Just finished lifting weights, a little weak after a few weeks off but not terrible. The sun is shining, there's a cool breeze going, and the palm trees look nice and green. Even won some bets yesterday.

Living the dream.

Never mind the ants on your desk, or the ****-stained toilet paper sitting in a trash can in the bathroom. Never mind the barbed wire fence outside your building, and actually having to use the safe so your ladyfriend won't steal from you. Never mind the bum walking around with no pants on, and the people who dig through the trash and scatter it on the sidewalks every night. Never mind the barred windows, the broken stoplights, open sewers, "Not For Sale" signs.

You are living the dream.
Hmmm I'm going to Colombia in October. What city do you live in? I'll need find a better place to spend my time in than this city's description

Last edited by gmcarroll33; 07-27-2014 at 12:29 PM.
07-28-2014 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TomG
It's just minimizing the sum of (predicted outcome - actual match)^2. You can do it in Excel using Solver or manually through guess and check.
Finally back home so I can get to this.
Still not sure how I'd do this with solver from what I have in my spreadsheet. Can you show me? I've uploaded a sample spreadsheet with elo ratings for MLS teams from 96-99.
http://www.speedyshare.com/jR65d/mlselosample.xlsx

Got another question.

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Every time a club exchanges Elo points with a club from another league, on top of the exchanged points from the clubs, the leagues will exchange points as well. A certain amount of points will be added to the league's clubs, uniformly distributed. To find out how many points are ideal, I tested what factor is required to provide the best predictability for European Cup games.
http://clubelo.com/Articles/Inter-Le...justments.html

Did this guy find the ideal factor in the same way I'd find the best k-factor?
08-13-2014 , 09:01 PM
Nothing like the feeling of waking up, seeing went 0-7 last night, and then on first max bet of the new day, the line doesn't more, not even a cent.
08-14-2014 , 12:27 AM
1-3 this morning. Only bet I won was that one with ease and extremely rare (was ******) no line move and then looking at the history backed me off
08-14-2014 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by HolidayInTheSun
poogs how did you get enough money to buy a condo?
From a combination of advantage gambling and working a regular job. why how do you make your money?
08-14-2014 , 09:03 AM
girls give it to him.

he's one of the beautiful people poogs, me and you gotta grind and hustle, HITS gets showered with love...
08-14-2014 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Poogs
From a combination of advantage gambling and working a regular job. why how do you make your money?
Can we see some pics of your new place?

      
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