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Originally Posted by Honcho
Not sure what to think of the Forte ride today. Ya out wide bad draw i get that but dropped in easy enough i thought but not taking anything away from the Win he gutted it out BUT just a weird azz performance imo. I thought he was done 2 times at least and he rallied enough when he needed to. Like to see his number coming out of this compared to Cox's winner out of the Arkansas. Just not sold on Forte myself. JK et all nice to hear from ya all if you have an opinion going into Derby as well.
Fort Washington start hurt today thought i was on the best horse here but start did me in getting through the traffic after that like LA traffic just a sob but hope to get a decent price next out.
Haha. I’m still degenning horses but don’t post here bc nobody really ever is active.
Hmm for derby- I like forte however at the price he’s going off at (prolly 5/2 to 7/2) I think he’s a fade. I think the crop in florida is weaker than weak. Mage seems like a good horse but I don’t take him too seriously bc he isn’t supposed to get the extra panel + he’s lightly raced against a weak field minus forte. Only thing about mage- his trip was really really bad in the FL derby- I think he started slow and jock took him back which isn’t his best running style. I had a chunky bet on mage in the win and was shocked he got tagged by forte.
Forte- i like the horse but he tends to start slow. If he gets like a 1-4 post or 15-20- I think he’s doomed. Idk I could see him stacking up behind horses and beaten by a bad trip at a way too short price. I like kingsbarn, hit show, maybe instant coffee if he makes it and pace looks fast (he prolly doesn’t get in), maybe the Jpn horses at a price bc they’ve been killing in big races. Right now I like hit show and kingsbarn but will wait to hear how they are training at CD + gotta look at pace scenario + pps.
I also kinda like the west coast. Practical move is not a horse I like bc I don’t feel practical jokes will get the 10 panels but the speed figs have been solid. Geux rocket ride is another kinda like. Idk I feel west coast horses tend to be better than east coast on the dirt especially around KD time but hard to say. The SA derby should help figure out the puzzle a bit. Still way out and I’m having trouble.
As a side note- I’m bummed the baffert top dog horse is out. I hammered one of the all other future pools for derby to get that horse. I thought that horse was going to be fire and potentially the next American pharaoh, cali chrome, etc. I’m surprised the horse was taken out of contention so early so he just be pretty roughed up in training. I have a future wager on forte, kingsbarn, and the all others (will include 5-6 horses) so I have my bases covered but still a lot of spots I could get knocked out on.
Kentucky oaks- I really wanna fade wet paint. Hate the running style coming from way back. Somehow if the speed is lacking in the oaks or there is a classy E or E/P horse that can rival that one, def wanna fade wet paint as the favorite.
Jockey watch- still a fan of florent geroux- I remember folks touting him here way back. I think flavien prat is the jock to watch. I may be wrong and just biased but think he’s better than Irad ortiz. If flavien prat got all the top dog Chad brown and Todd pletcher runners irad got- think he would compete for the Saratoga jockey title.