Id almost put money on him running. No way bronco stays home if he comes out healthy from today

Will someone please tell me who will finish 4th in few weeks at belmont in a few weeks. So ill have 6-7 times.

Wow.I had to look it up. Super big spoilers, NY, and WS is quality and should like the distance.

For me what is there to say...I do not think I could of saw it any better and CC and ROC are by my eye as I have been saying throughout. Nothing has changed my mind about the 3rd leg and I still see it the same as I posted previously.

Going to post what I think is a good article and the type of personal character I like to see in people demonstrated by Wild Bill here. You go to the last sentence and replace horse with capping and that is how I see many in the thread.

Best of luck on your plays to all itt today.http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...preakness-well

I can't be the only one starting to develop a dislike for CC's owners. Now these baby cries are trying to blackmail the Belmont stewards into allowing their horse to wear nasal strips. This after the whining about the supposed lack of hospitality they received at Churchill Downs, and the whining about having to face horses in the Belmont that didn't run in both the Kentucky Derby and Preakness (I **** you not).

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...crown/9245559/


Now I hope the stewards say no. "Maybe they don't want us there". These guys sound like *******s.

They can't tell me they didn't know they wouldn't be allowed to wear nasal strips well ahead of time. it maybe a dumb rule but its been in place. Deal with it
Seems they are making excuses for if he loses

I kinda liked CC's connections

Twin, you were spot on about Ria Antonia's owner. Every article I read leading up to the Preakness was hinting that the guy was nuts and that the horse had no business being in the race. The trainer's quotes were the best. He was constantly pointing out that it wasn't his decision to enter the race.

It was funny seeing $500K of completely dead money on her to win. She was something incredible like only 17 to 1. I guess that was the "hey look, a filly! and she has initials R.A!" school of handicapping. It makes me think that CC will be insanely bad value at the Belmont. There will be a huge number of squares betting on that race.

If any1 here does like CC to win the Belmont, id encourage u to bet CC to "PLACE" not to win. Cos even if he does win, he's gonna pay more to place, ala smarty jones year. When Smarty went off at odds of 2/5 in the Belmont, a $2win ticket would have returned $2.85 i believe, but obv he didnt win, but he still paid $3.30 to Place, which is 3/5 with some xtra breakage... Smarty even paid $2.60 to show.
Will b uber amounts of $2 souvenir win tickets on CC n the belmont.
Heck it almost happened in the preakness by paying $3.00 to win & $3.00 to place. Such a rarity it a big race like that.
Fwiw, belmont saturday will b 1 of the greatest days of wagering opportunities some of us horse players will ever see.. As long as he runs, there will b epic opportunities. Especially with that undercard they have set up!! Like the poster above, there will b uber amounts of dead money to take advantage of.

To add to what i said bout CC's connections. I felt like CD needed a slap n the face for the way theyve handled some things lately... Especially the Ron Turcotte debacle!! That was jus awful on there part to make an invited guest of theres thats bound to a wheel chair have to pay for parking & then wheel himself a mile to get to the place he's been asked to attend!! Jus awful!

I think betting CC for belmont is a bad idea. I see hes listed at around -135 to win the Belmont which I think is a really bad price. Field is -105. I believe he will not have the distance down but honestly I'm not a guru in horse racing as i've only been a fan for maybe 1-2 years max and don't follow the sport like some hardcore fans.

Anyone hit any big payouts during preakness? I hit 4 .50 cent pick 4's. Sadly would have had $7 worth of tickets if chalk won in the 3rd race before the preakness.

Also, anyone see social inclusion right before the start of the race. He looked extremely sweaty. When I saw that I thought he had no chance at winning the race. Good thought or no? Still a noob in the horse racing racket.

Finally I agree with Post-oak. It would be a shame if they allow CC run with those strips. Rules are rules imo. There is no way CC will not run the Belmont even if he can't wear the nasal strips. Would be a weak move if they allow him to wear those strips. Seems like a fair playing field if none of the other horses can't wear them so I don't see point of threatening to not enter the horse.

Just my 2 cents. New York State Gaming Commission will not change the equipment rule allowing the breathing strip. The New York contenders have not been allowed to use them because of the existing rule, and it is an unfair advantage to let another horse who has been using it in races already. While obviously a bad rule, and NYRA should have already changed it, doing so mid-year does not allow the other trainers the opportunity to try the equipment out first.

ATS I have not mentioned it but I have not put a dime through TS or any other CHD affiliate because of the chicken chit way they handled Mr Turcotte. Sure the idiot who made that decision is still getting a paycheck too which just shows how out of touch some in this game are. All it would of took is someone there with a little backbone and a pair to say Mr Turcotte has a spot as long as I am an employee of CHD and my spot is now your spot Mr T period,but no one did so whoever is in charge of that dept marketing or whatever did more than drop the ball imo.

Owners make a lot of noise and until I hear CC himself say it is an issue I choose not to listen to this people drama bs. I am of the opinion if it is a rule and has always been one then what are we talking about?

I did notice SI was lathered up in the paddock and only make mention of it because the horse did run on for 3rd and made a mental note not to let this deter me much in future wagering with this horse as I would usually dismiss right off.

I think most would agree with you.

What twin is saying is that IF you like CC in the Belmont, you will probably be much better off betting him to place than to win. If you look at the payouts from the Preakness, both win and place paid $3.00. So many people bet CC to win that they ignored that you could get the same odds betting him to place. He is saying that in the Belmont, betting to place could pay even better than betting to win.

Sounds like Social Inclusion is also being pointed towards the Belmont. Seems like an awful decision. He wheelhouse is probably about 1 1/16 miles. I guess he will try and win it as a front runner, which could mean a decent pace is assured for the first mile or so.

Since using nasal strips chrome has won six straight races. Since changing jockeys he's won 6 straight. Privman posted an article on I'll have another wore nasal strips his trainer had no problems accepting the no strip rule then scratched due to leg injury.

hi room. first to caLi chrome...what a beast. tired.. yes. u could tell. but u can also tell that the horses that come under him in the last 2/3 races, they didnt run to win and beat him, they ran slow late to clean up the mess, hit the board. the belmont is going to be A super race. As a matter of fact, ive been to the last 2 breeders cup and they have been great but the names lined up ready for the 7th and the money total for the races is unmatched for a one day card. everyday that passes from now till then is pure excitement

Hi guys, racing newbie here with a quick question. For a long and complicated reason, I have 89$ stuck on sportsbook.ag that I would like to withdraw, but there's a ~$30 fee for doing so.

Instead, I thought I would take a shot on something like a 20-1 longshot in the racebook, if I do make a big score I can withdraw it and the fee is a much smaller percentage. It could also be a fun little sweat and a chance to learning something about horses (I know nothing). Any suggestions for a somewhat reasonable bet at around those odds? Should I be doing a parlay or something like that?

Balmoral Park has nice carryover in late Super High Five.

Race 10) 6/3,8/1,2,3,5,8/all/all

6-10-8-1-3. The worst. 10 comes from dead last to nip second.

.10 pays $388 with 1/2 horse on top.

Was this in reply to me?....If so I'm sorry I don't know how to interpret it?

Yeah, but he probably snores @ night. Real f***ing loud.

The nasal strips will be allowed. No excuses now.

Well New York, that's great, nobody here has had a chance to try these out in a race, but it's all fair , right?

To be honest, I don't think Art Sherman has the stomach to do what he has to do to get the horse ready in 3 weeks to run a mile and a half.

He doesn't have the time to let him recover, ship him, acclimate him, and step his morning gallops and workouts up in distance. He has to skip the resting and start in with even harder workouts and hope he doesn't break him down. He's going to have to tear the horse up for one race, and the whole world watching, and all the pressure of the media, and social media nowadays.

Forget the Belmont, get home, get healed up, get rested, come back in the Fall for the Breeders Cup, and that sets you up for the perfect Winter rest and 4 year old campaign.

I have to admit, I did laugh when the owner bashed Churchill Downs for their hospitality on national television. Yeah go big daddy, that's for all the crap that track dishes out to west coast horsemen every freaking year and bad stalls, good stalls for the KY home breds.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/story/_/...iple-crown-bid

I agree that the strips should be permitted in general, but changing it right in the middle of a meet?! They went through the same crap with IHA in 2012, you figured they could've changed it at the start of the 2013 meet.

There's always a lot of pressure to get these Kentucky/Preakness winners into the breeding shed as soon a possible. Who knows if he'll even have a 4 year old campaign, let alone still be racing in November.