Did Props Builder get rid of standard NFL player props (over/unders)?

i still see prop builder over/unders for yards, receptions etc. on Betonline

last post here was on my birthday, need to rectify that


R1
Golfer Fair Line
Matthias Schwab 109
Chesson Hadley -109
0
Troy Merritt 104
Sam Ryder -104
0
Brendan Steele -107
Russell Knox 107
0
Christiaan Bezuidenhout 117
Emiliano Grillo -117
0
Alex Smalley -110
Cameron Davis 110
0
Andrew Putnam 109
Maverick McNealy -109
0
Stewart Cink -116
Adam Schenk 116
0
Si Woo Kim 120
Matt Kuchar -120
0
Russell Henley 107
Tom Hoge -107
0
J.J. Spaun -108
Harris English 108
0
Adam Svensson 118
Webb Simpson -118
0
Russell Henley 121
Brian Harman -121
0
Billy Horschel 122
Jordan Spieth -122
0
Jordan Spieth 111
Brian Harman -111
0
Brandon Wu -108
Zac Blair 108
0
Scott Piercy 113
Justin Suh -113
0
Sam Stevens #DIV/0!
Nate Lashley #DIV/0!
0
Matthias Schmid 126
Davis Thompson -126
0
Denny McCarthy 103
Kurt Kitayama -103
0
Brian Stuard 101
Austin Cook -101
0
Ryan Palmer -113
Kevin Streelman 113
0
Hayden Buckley 108
Brendon Todd -108
0
David Lingmerth -112
Byeong Hun An 112
0
Stephan Jaeger 110
Greyson Sigg -110
0
Keith Mitchell 111
KH Lee -111
0
Gary Woodland -106
Nick Hardy 106
0
Tyler Duncan -102
Chez Reavie 102
0
Nick Taylor 111
David Lipsky -111
0
Mackenzie Hughes 109
Gary Woodland -109
0
Keegan Bradley 103
Hideki Matsuyama -103
0
Tom Kim -116
Sungjae Im 116
0
Adam Scott -127
J.T. Poston 127
0
Corey Conners 106
Taylor Montgomery -106
0
Adam Long 116
Ben Griffin -116
0
Joseph Bramlett 111
SH Kim -111
0
Robby Shelton 121
Will Gordon -121



Tourney
Golfer Fair Line
J.T. Poston -101
Christiaan Bezuidenhout 101
0
Brendon Todd -109
Brendan Steele 109
0
Troy Merritt 115
Sam Ryder -115
0
Christiaan Bezuidenhout -117
Mackenzie Hughes 117
0
Troy Merritt 121
Ryan Palmer -121
0
Webb Simpson 102
Brendan Steele -102
0
Emiliano Grillo -135
Christiaan Bezuidenhout 135
0
Alex Smalley -126
Kurt Kitayama 126
0
Emiliano Grillo -152
Mackenzie Hughes 152
0
Adam Scott -121
Emiliano Grillo 121
0
Matt Kuchar -119
Alex Smalley 119
0
Matt Kuchar -113
Andrew Putnam 113
0
Keith Mitchell 121
Maverick McNealy -121
0
Denny McCarthy 103
Chris Kirk -103
0
Cameron Davis 136
Maverick McNealy -136
0
Andrew Putnam -127
Brendon Todd 127
0
Chris Kirk -102
Nick Hardy 102
0
Si Woo Kim 153
Maverick McNealy -153
0
Andrew Putnam 135
Adam Scott -135
0
Cameron Davis 150
Adam Scott -150
0
Si Woo Kim 113
Harris English -113
0
Si Woo Kim -105
Denny McCarthy 105
0
Brian Harman -150
Russell Henley 150
0
Corey Conners 121
Tom Hoge -121
0
Adam Svensson 135
Webb Simpson -135
0
Hideki Matsuyama 108
Tom Hoge -108
0
Russell Henley -107
Corey Conners 107
0
Harris English -102
Gary Woodland 102
0
Adam Svensson 127
Hayden Buckley -127
0
Russell Henley 101
Hideki Matsuyama -101
0
Harris English -103
J.T. Poston 103
0
Billy Horschel 114
Keegan Bradley -114
0
Billy Horschel 120
Taylor Montgomery -120
0
Jordan Spieth -123
Hideki Matsuyama 123
0
KH Lee -110
J.J. Spaun 110
0
Sungjae Im -113
Jordan Spieth 113
0
J.J. Spaun -123
J.T. Poston 123
0
Aaron Rai 123
Russell Knox -123
0
Tom Kim -118
Brian Harman 118
0
Adam Schenk -123
Joseph Bramlett 123
0
Nick Taylor 103
Zac Blair -103
0
Justin Suh -131
Kevin Streelman 131
0
Denny McCarthy 101
Kurt Kitayama -101
0
Hayden Buckley 102
Greyson Sigg -102
0
Ryan Palmer -137
Robby Shelton 137
0
David Lipsky 112
Patton Kizzire -112
0
Stephan Jaeger 131
Will Gordon -131
0
Keegan Bradley -143
Keith Mitchell 143
0
Gary Woodland -112
Nick Hardy 112
0
KH Lee 125
Taylor Montgomery -125
0
Tom Kim -122
Sungjae Im 122
0
Keegan Bradley 107
Taylor Montgomery -107
0
Chez Reavie 146
Ben Griffin -146
0
Will Gordon -146
Robby Shelton 146

R1 results = 2-2-1 -0.16u

R2

Golfer Fair Line
Denny McCarthy -107
Kurt Kitayama 107
0
Aaron Baddeley -121
Andrew Novak 121
0
Adam Scott -129
Denny McCarthy 129
0
Patton Kizzire -101
Ben Griffin 101
0
Aaron Rai 113
Will Gordon -113
0
Hayden Buckley 108
Brendon Todd -108
0
Stephan Jaeger -101
David Lipsky 101
0
Ryan Armour -117
Byeong Hun An 117
0
KH Lee 106
Adam Scott -106
0
Robert Streb -101
Ben Martin 101
0
Chez Reavie 108
Joseph Bramlett -108
0
Tom Kim -112
Sungjae Im 112
0
Keegan Bradley -119
J.T. Poston 119
0
Hideki Matsuyama -102
Corey Conners 102
0
Hideki Matsuyama 106
Taylor Montgomery -106
0
Rory Sabbatini 106
Austin Eckroat -106
0
Adam Long 120
Ben Taylor -120
0
Nick Hardy -114
SH Kim 114
0
Troy Merritt -101
Mark Hubbard 101
0
Brendan Steele -103
Webb Simpson 103
0
Emiliano Grillo 104
Maverick McNealy -104
0
Alex Smalley 103
Andrew Putnam -103
0
Chris Kirk -128
Adam Svensson 128
0
Cameron Davis -106
Si Woo Kim 106
0
Stewart Cink -127
Zac Blair 127
0
Cameron Davis 105
Harris English -105
0
Si Woo Kim 120
J.J. Spaun -120
0
Chad Ramey 116
Austin Smotherman -116
0
Harris English 108
Matt Kuchar -108
0
Russell Henley 104
Tom Hoge -104
0
Russell Henley 113
Jordan Spieth -113
0
Jordan Spieth 107
Brian Harman -107
0
Brandon Wu 119
Russell Knox -119
0
Sam Ryder -110
Adam Schenk 110
0
Justin Suh -118
Scott Piercy 118

2-0 +2u in r2

onto R3

Golfer Fair Line
Brendan Steele -101
Russell Knox 101
0
Austin Smotherman -114
Chad Ramey 114
0
Adam Schenk -115
Nick Taylor 115
0
Tom Hoge -115
Matt Kuchar 115
0
Adam Svensson 116
Greyson Sigg -116
0
Ryan Palmer -117
Troy Merritt 117
0
Aaron Rai -119
Joseph Bramlett 119
0
Kurt Kitayama 119
Andrew Putnam -119
0
Brian Harman -120
Hideki Matsuyama 120
0
Patton Kizzire -112
Zac Blair 112
0
KH Lee -113
Cameron Davis 113
0
Will Gordon 101
Justin Suh -101
0
Aaron Baddeley -123
Andrew Novak 123
0
Zach Johnson -119
Ben Martin 119
0
Russell Henley 121
Brian Harman -121
0
Russell Henley 103
Hideki Matsuyama -103
0
MJ Daffue -121
Byeong Hun An 121
0
Brian Stuard -105
Danny Lee 105
0
Harry Hall -106
Kevin Tway 106
0
Keita Nakajima 106
Doc Redman -106
0
Adam Scott -129
Harris English 129
0
Corey Conners 107
Taylor Montgomery -107
0
Si Woo Kim 120
Maverick McNealy -120
0
SH Kim 102
Ben Griffin -102
0
Chris Kirk -102
Nick Hardy 102
0
J.J. Spaun -113
J.T. Poston 113
0
Brendon Todd -104
Denny McCarthy 104
0
Ben Taylor #DIV/0!
Kevin Yu #DIV/0!
0
Chez Reavie 140
Stewart Cink -140
0
Brendon Todd -101
Chris Kirk 101
0
Hayden Buckley -115
David Lipsky 115
0
Taylor Montgomery -114
Maverick McNealy 114
0
J.J. Spaun -118
Denny McCarthy 118
0
Stephan Jaeger -107
David Lipsky 107
0
Hayden Buckley 103
Nick Hardy -103
0
Adam Scott -135
Si Woo Kim 135

rick wtf you been, mang?

Good to see you alive and kickin

yeah i got just swamped with some stuff and this place is such a time suck for me that I really struggle using this site passively so just easier to go cold turkey instead

r3 2-4 -2.3u

onto r4

Golfer Fair Line
Troy Merritt -120
Chez Reavie 120
0
Brian Harman -124
Corey Conners 124
0
Tyson Alexander 101
Keita Nakajima -101
0
Russell Henley 103
Corey Conners -103
0
Cameron Davis 129
Adam Scott -129
0
Justin Suh -115
Ben Griffin 115
0
Ben Martin 111
Austin Eckroat -111
0
Brian Stuard -124
Andrew Novak 124
0
Russell Henley 108
Tom Hoge -108
0
Greyson Sigg -111
Stephan Jaeger 111
0
Brendon Todd -106
Nick Hardy 106
0
J.J. Spaun 114
Adam Scott -114
0
Davis Thompson -109
Adam Long 109
0
Ryan Palmer -128
Joseph Bramlett 128
0
Hideki Matsuyama -111
KH Lee 111
0
Hideki Matsuyama 105
Taylor Montgomery -105
0
Brendan Steele -114
Adam Svensson 114
0
Denny McCarthy 120
Matt Kuchar -120
0
Taylor Montgomery -122
J.J. Spaun 122
0
Byeong Hun An #DIV/0!
Kevin Yu #DIV/0!
0
Stewart Cink -131
Nick Taylor 131
0
Matt Kuchar -112
J.T. Poston 112
0
Aaron Rai 108
Russell Knox -108
0
KH Lee -102
Maverick McNealy 102
0
Harris English -106
Kurt Kitayama 106
0
Will Gordon -119
SH Kim 119
0
J.T. Poston 108
Andrew Putnam -108
0
Si Woo Kim 125
Maverick McNealy -125
0
Nick Taylor 122
Ben Taylor -122
0
Chris Kirk -102
Hayden Buckley 102
0
Si Woo Kim 116
Andrew Putnam -116
0
David Lipsky 106
Ben Taylor -106

seems like people aren't checking here anymore, i'll keep posting i guess but probably just link to tweets now with updates

also if people are curious, i put everything from last year and going forward into a google sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=552636715

The syndicate had a good run

yes it did, i learned so much here, will forever be grateful

nice thing about posting via twitter is now we have easy access to gifs and found a very appropriate one today

Hi all! I am very, very new to betting, I used to be a professional poker player, so I am familiar with variance and other delights of this game.

I would like to ask a question - should I consider betting as a way to earn money now, if I have no knowledge at all? Is it worth to go deeper and start studying Xg-statistics and other things to create my own models? Will it bring money at a distance or has the time for such money passed?

Thank you very much in advance for the answer!

it's a tough nut to crack

but you're probably a few years away from being able to originate well enough to beat the markets and even then it's a big if

it looks like you're interested in soccer, i'd focus on lower level leagues

Hey Tom, followed this thread for a long time over the years. Could you please send me a PM in regards to potentially teaming up on props. Thanks!

lol yea im sure he'll get right on that Wiggity

Bookmaker put out MLB HRR player props for the first time last season. I thought I could beat them using my old stuff and I got beat up pretty good. I ain't embarrassed to admit that I'm very likely no longer profitable at the one market I thought I could beat. That's it for me boys. Yesterday, I substitute taught history to middle schoolers. It's tough out there boys. Much respect to those still profitably grinding sports betting. You are true warriors.

Say it ain't so, TomG, say it ain't so.

Tom you are the man and a legend.

Hey guys I have a fun one I think.

My book has a prop up: how many road teams will win during the 6 game weekend? Over/under 2.5, +110 on the over.

So I asked chat gpt. I said:

"Assume there are six football games to be played. The road teams have the following winning percentages: 54%, 34%, 20%, 26%, 41%, 58%. What are the chances that 3 or more road teams will win?"

And they said: "I apologize for the inconvenience. It seems there was an error processing the calculations directly. Let me provide you with the result:

The probability of 3 or more road teams winning out of the six games, given the specified winning percentages, is approximately
0.9326
0.9326 or
93.26
93.26."

That didn't seem right to me so I said are you sure about that?

And they said: "I appreciate your patience. Let me recheck the calculations to ensure accuracy. I apologize for the inconvenience. It seems there's still an issue with processing the calculations directly. Let me provide you with the accurate result:

The probability of 3 or more road teams winning out of the six games, given the specified winning percentages, is approximately
0.8324
0.8324 or
83.24
83.24. I appreciate your understanding. If you have any more questions or if there's anything else I can assist you with, feel free to let me know."

So I replied:

"So you were wrong the first time?"


And they said: "Yes, I made an error in the initial response. I appreciate your understanding. The correct probability of 3 or more road teams winning out of the six games is approximately
0.8324
0.8324 or
83.24
83.24. I apologize for any confusion caused by the mistake. If you have any more questions or if there's anything else I can help you with, please let me know."



So first of all, isn't this thing like definitely not supposed to make a math mistake? And also, is that right? 83% Makes +110 look pretty good but I'm not sure if its correct. Anyone care to dive in?

https://www.xda-developers.com/why-l...0calculations.

Also, I get 23.9% that zero or 1 road team wins. LDO.

math mistakes are like the #1 item on the list of chatgpt's shortcomings. that or hallucinating answers that are the polar opposite of the correct answer to your question, but asserting it with absolute confidence.