Why is every body do critical of my typing chill out I'm using a phone not a computer. Just read a little slower and you will be able to understand my run on sentences with no punctuation! I'm not proof reading cause the screen is too small! Anyways I spoke with another guy he has been paid like 24k over 6 weeks and has a balance of like 70k but he hit this bet multiple times not just once like I did and tony personally reviewed his acct a couple times because of some losses he had in the casino or errors made on his acct! Tony never mentioned there was an issue with that wager in these reviews until he hit him big this weekend!! I don't know this situation just don't make sense how could this have gone on soo long with so many opportunities to be corrected of it wasn't intentionally put out there to trap his customer base!!

you sure cashed out ASAP.. wonder why?? were u afraid u weren't going to get paid? or cash out fast enough before they catch the error

Why is every body do critical of my typing chill out I'm using a phone not a computer. Just read a little slower and you will be able to understand my run on sentences with no punctuation! I'm not proof reading cause the screen is too small! Anyways I spoke with another guy he has been paid like 24k over 6 weeks and has a balance of like 70k but he hit this bet multiple times not just once like I did and tony personally reviewed his acct a couple times because of some losses he had in the casino or errors made on his acct! Tony never mentioned there was an issue with that wager in these reviews until he hit him big this weekend!! I don't know this situation just don't make sense how could this have gone on soo long with so many opportunities to be corrected of it wasn't intentionally put out there to trap his customer base!!

Actually I did not cash out right away I waited for a week and a half befor my first withdrawal and I contacted 5dimes and had them review the tickets prior to doing so! I also doubled that 3990 and had about 9 k in my acct befor I took any $. So u may wanna get the facts strait befor u speak ur nonsense! Sorry I try not to keep over 10k in any acct over sea of I can help it. I only won 3990 on that wager the rest was won on legit wagers! I continued withdrawing $ on a weekly basis but managed to keep my acct over 10 k. This weekend I won 22k wich brought my balance to 32+! What could I or would u do different??
Called 5dimes reported wager in question! Check
No longer bet wager in ? Check
Left $ in ? In acct! Check
I don't see what I did wrong I always had $ in my acct prior to this win and after I never would have had a negative balance and would have reloaded if I did not win the wager this was not my last 57 cents in my acct when I won this money I still had a balance win or loose! I did see that this could have been a mistake so to protect my acct I called and had it checked out this was logged and recorded that I did do that. Am I in the wrong still after every step I took to get this right when I realized this could be an error I got it checked out to protect my acct! This play then stayed in ther books for the next six weeks for anybody to play and win. Was I just suppose to never withdraw money from my acct or loose it all so I owe 5d 3990 well that defeats the purpose gambling!!

We forgot to mention how bad your spelling is!

Dan,

You knew what was taking place and took advantage of the situation. 5 dimes figured out what took place and took action. This is the wild wild west, when books or their CS make mistakes there is nothing to prevent them from doing wahtever they want. The "mistake" still worked out for you it seems, just not as well as you wanted/hoped/prayed.


I don't think its right what 5d is doing but its a meh spot for everyone. imo.

also. Tony makes 5dimes and the whole industry look terrible everytime he gets going in chat. thanks for the lolz tony sleep well

Would you have had enough to cover all future bets if the pleaser had paid out correctly?

At the time I hit the pleaser it was time to reload I may have had about 200$ in the acct so I would have added at least 500 to 1000 more. this was a new acct as I previously stated so I just started funding it. Now after I hit the pleaser and verified it with cs I decided not to deposit any more $. Also I never put the entire 3990 at risk after winning I may have risked 1500 to 2000 and bumped my balance to 9k with those wagers and continuously increased my weekly wagers as my acct grew. So to answer ur ? Yes I would have funded the acct to have at least to 1700$ to cover that weeks bets and it was all uphill from there. This is defenately part of my argument as I stated this in the call with cs I want to make sure I have enough money in my acct to cover this weeks bets!!!

If within say 3 days after you hit the pleaser to make your roll, I'd say 5dimes could be justified in veto'ing all your subsequent bets.

But when it's been 2 months, they are essentially just freerolling you and it is terrible form by them and they should be on the hook to pay you out.

Op should pay back the bet that was graded incorrectly but all subsequent bets stand. I saw that exact situation come up with pinny but the better lost all subsequent bets. He tried to argue that he never would have made the bets had they not incorrectly graded an earlier bet. They laughed at his ridiculous theory and he was on the hook for all bets he lost. It was a horrible line of reasoning but it is basically what Tony is using to void all the bets. As far as his complaint not doing anything to help his cause, that might be true. However reputation does count for something and since there are no legal channels to go through it might be his only leverage. I do not think he gets paid but I also don't think this should go unnoticed by the gambling community.

In the end if my forum costs tony any $ I'll feel I got paid!!! Danger fish that is exactly what 5d rule is if I lost the $ I'm on the hook for it on the other hand they are to honor all pending/existing wagers. That rule is posted above or on pg 5 of this forum! Also 5d has a 7 day rule that states if a wager is misgraded u have 7 days to correct it or the wager stands as graded! Either way it's up to him to resolve the issue not the only one but I feel I have the best case considering all steps I took to correct this and I only won the bet 1 time for 3990 the rest was won strait up or legit pays! Others I guess won mainly this bet to upward of 100k in nj somewhere and got 24 l paid out to him!

i just looked through the rules.

The 7 days seems to only be if an error results in the bet being graded against you. You have 7 days to notify them to fix it, otherwise it stands, in their favour.

Intuitively you'd think the flip-side of this is also true, but that's not stated in the rules.

After reading all 6 pages of this, I highly doubt I'll ever use 5dimes again.
First off, I'll admit my opinion is worth less than nothing, but based on the cust. service transcipt alone I will save myself from the potential drama and stay away. I'm well aware of tony williams "strictly business, to the point" reputation, but in all honesty his behavior here is beyond deplorable.

He is essentially calling OP a thief (in his own words) because
a.) his software glitched, yet again
b.) his staff repeatedly failed to resolve the issue and even understand their own policies.

Not to mention, it's very reasonable to assume that 5dimes never even recognizes the error unless OP attempts to correct it in the first place.

Anyone trying to insinuate that OP attempted to cheat them is just squeezing sour grapes at this point. I'm sorry but if you were really attempting to play with the houses money, pull a quick one, and cash out before they realize, you would not continuously bring the aforementioned error up to the SB and attempt to resolve it repeatedly only to make further bets weeks later.

OP owes 5dimes the ~3k, that's it, and truthfully it sounds like had they tried to work it out reasonable then OP would have no problem at all settling. Saying he got away with what he got and should be happy with that and not ask for the rest of his money is fundamentally wrong. This is yet another case where Tony Williams attempting to act like Tony Soprano just makes him look like the complete tool that he really is.

hurting yourself because a sportsbook made the wrong ruling in a case involving others is not a good idea.

Almost all of these books have issues. TIA. Giving up 5Ds prop markets or, if still elgible, reduced juice due to this dude's issue is not a good idea.

General rules, don't place bets on line errors. Of course, I've had chats with Tony were he said I was picking off obvious line errors that weren't so obvious, but that's a different matter.

I get ur point if this feeds ur family!
It's my issue today maybe yours tomorrow!! If he breaks his own rules when things don't go in his favor he will continue to find reasons not to pay. He is a shady guy who runs a shrug business. He treats everyone as if he is above them and they are privelaged to put there $ in his hands. He makes threats to hurt people and or there families based on his own ridiculous errors and for many other reasons making him a criminal. People have morals and chose not to deal with him for those reasons. We all don't care about a couple bucks some of us play for enjoyment and try to make a couple on the side but prefer to do it with people we r comfortable giving money to. I personally could no live with myself knowing I'm funding an out right criminal who may use my money to get somebody hurt or killed and tony may be that guy!

I posted a thread on sbr so u may get updates thru them on this issue for anybody who wants more facts and want to know what comes of this!

If you generally make large bets anyway, why did you only put 57c down in a hugely +EV spot?

Is there a link to the SBR thread?

and good luck with being paid out! I think we are all rooting for you!

and the correct action

The SBR Thread - nothing to see at the moment though.

As I said before, if your thread encourages certain players here to not play at 5d that would potentially be a more profitable result for them.

Disagree, I get recreational guys asking me all the time what books to play on and 5dimes was my first recommendation, before hearing this of course.

i won't feel bad about past posting these pricks..not that i ever did.

I explained already that I always bet long shots or big plser parlays. Anything that pays huge on a dollar I like to throw change on. Sometimes 50 cents sometimes 5 bucks. I also wager based on bankroll like everybody I don't always place huge bets unless I'm ahead in this case I was running well for 6 weeks so the last weekend prior to getting shut down I had some 4 k bets and 500$ 4 teamers that hit. My bets gradually increased as I made $ and time went by. I never just won this one bet then just put it all out there in hopes of winning fast $ I thought I could cash out on this was done over a course of 6 wks or so when I was running incredibly well. Also a majority of the $ was won on the weekends as I bet college and nfl during the week it was used to set up open parlays wich I closed over the weekend or it just kinda sat not to mention this money was won on over 600 bets placed in that time frame a lot of losers some bigger winners!

IF some of u on here can post ur opinions at my other new thread at sbr I would really appreciate it! I feel this will show sbr how many of u r on my side and feel tony is wrong! I think it goes a long way in there eyes what the community thinks with all the facts!

If the ATM spurts extra $ at you

And you go into the bank and ask a teller making $8 an hour if it's a big deal

You're not avoiding breaking the law because they say it's no biggie