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06-01-2014 , 06:06 PM

3betForFood

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 141

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $231.64 (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 27.78, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 18)
SB: $378.35 (VPIP: 11.29, PFR: 4.84, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 62)
BB: $238.92 (VPIP: 22.50, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 81)
Hero (UTG): $232.71
MP: $255.41 (VPIP: 26.42, PFR: 16.98, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 56)
CO: $231.55 (VPIP: 22.45, PFR: 18.47, 3Bet Preflop: 7.42, Hands: 2,256)

SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has Q

Hero raises to $5.00, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $17.00, fold, Hero calls $12.00

Flop: ($36.00, 2 players) 3

SB checks, Hero bets $18.00, SB raises to $52.00

sizing otf? anyone wena check back(w Qd)?
after the raise are we folding,jamming or flatting here?

06-01-2014 , 09:04 PM

Jever

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,737

Easy fold pre. Easy b/f on the flop.

06-03-2014 , 02:20 PM

darwine

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 18

Looks like a really tight opponent. You are essentially hoping that he is bluffing with AK in this spot (because most other smaller pairs would not reraise when oop preflop). I would fold.

06-03-2014 , 03:38 PM

Zarshka

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 243

Loled at fold pre :x. 62 hands !

Pre call and 4/call are both fine. Postflop, if I bet here, it's not for folding vs raise. I prefer check back, assuming vilain will not x/c worst.

06-03-2014 , 05:53 PM

mucknuts

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 785

Think going 4b/call would be pretty terrible, but i wouldn't fold pre either. Think checking flop is better than betting, we aren't gonna get 3 streets out of worse very often but we weaken our perceived range this way instead putting a bit more air in our opponents range. It is also pretty suss that he would check a flop like this. Folding as played, but if calling prepare to hold on!

06-03-2014 , 06:37 PM

3betForFood

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 141

Thanks for the commets guys, agree 4b/c pre if super bad.

obv i'm not b/f here, any toughts on b/c vs b/3b?

06-04-2014 , 04:14 AM

Noct18

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 115

Calling pre mostly for set value. Flop is dry and its a 3bet pot so bet size is fine. Definitely a b/f on the flop. I think there is some validity to checking back, as I'd prefer to bet my air and KK+/sets vs his range. QQ has more equity vs his bet when checked to range on the turn than his flop C/R range.

06-04-2014 , 06:51 AM

K30r4

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 55

Am I the only one who thinks 62 hands doesn't tell the whole story?
I have had plenty of tables where I had almost no decent hand for the first 10 minutes.

This said I would jam on the flop after the reraise as I am not convinced he has AA, KK.
To raise or not raise the flop after he checked is kinda gutshot feeling. He might have AKs, AK, JJ, 10 even QQ as well.

From 62 hands we can't tell much IMO.

06-04-2014 , 07:10 AM

Noct18

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by K30r4

Villain who is playing extremely tight-passive for six-max 3bets and goes for a C/R on the flop on a super dry board and your not convinced he has a nutted range? Even over a small sample size, villain hasn't shown any LAG tendencies. I'm pretty sure that calling because "he might have AK" will lose us money.

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