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Zoom nl200. KK in 3-bet pot. Zoom nl200. KK in 3-bet pot.

09-07-2013 , 03:42 PM
Villian is unknown running with 21/14 after only 14 hands. Im bit lost here in this easy hand, this is a call or a fold?

BTN: $193 (96.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $222.62 (111.3 bb)
BB: $528.78 (264.4 bb)
UTG: $418.13 (209.1 bb)
MP: $286.17 (143.1 bb)
CO: $90.14 (45.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
UTG raises to $6, MP calls $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $26, BB folds, UTG calls $20, MP folds

Flop: ($60) J 3 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $42, UTG raises to $392.13 and is all-in, Hero? ($154 to hero)
09-07-2013 , 03:49 PM
snap
09-07-2013 , 04:24 PM
call??
09-07-2013 , 04:28 PM
w/o reads im calling,he can easily be shoving AcXx,KcXx,AcJx aswell as some QQ hands,dont really think he has many AA hands here and I dont think he is shoving many flushes like that
09-07-2013 , 05:56 PM
he is spazzing... prob has the A of clubs.. call it
09-09-2013 , 06:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Purple Dog
snap
Call.
09-09-2013 , 09:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Purple Dog
snap
reckon you'll be banking money calling it off here or something? really basic handreading will conclude that a decent player isnt going to have much Acx/worse value combos at all here. its obviously difficult to tell how good this dude is, but generally a preflop flatting range here is going to be tight -> pairs and suited broadways and therefore i think KK no club does semi bad against a jamming range. he may be getting in all AcKx pre and/or 4b/fold AQ, so its a pretty gross spot vs unknown.
09-09-2013 , 04:30 PM
yea I don't really feel that great about KK no redraw here
09-09-2013 , 05:13 PM
The amount of hands you hope he has is outweighed by the hands you really hope he doesn't have.... Probably just a sigh, fold
09-09-2013 , 05:28 PM
its a rough spot, id at least waver the mouse over the fold button.

we hope he has a big draw, but some big draws dont raise and those that do have great equity. you certainly arent printing money calling this.
09-09-2013 , 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by piepounder
id at least waver the mouse over the fold button
Haha this made me laugh I do that all the time.... Then you always move it to call button "alright, show me the nuts you bastard"
09-09-2013 , 10:30 PM
09-10-2013 , 01:48 AM
Exactly. It's a spot where your opponent is going to be doing his best to make a hand like your hand indifferent to calling and folding. If you aren't calling this raise, then why did you bet the flop? Do you think he/she never bluffs when checked to and only shoves strong hands on a monotone board?

How does he/she play hands like TcTs? Would he/she back-raise JJ pre-flop? Would he/she call with 33? Without answers to these questions, you might do best to check the flop to check-raise all-in (with this low SPR). Bet/folding doesn't seem great here. Although you are racing or behind, your opponent has you racing a LOT more than he has you behind and you're already getting nice pot odds.
09-10-2013 , 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by shootaa
Exactly. It's a spot where your opponent is going to be doing his best to make a hand like your hand indifferent to calling and folding. If you aren't calling this raise, then why did you bet the flop? Do you think he/she never bluffs when checked to and only shoves strong hands on a monotone board?

How does he/she play hands like TcTs? Would he/she back-raise JJ pre-flop? Would he/she call with 33? Without answers to these questions, you might do best to check the flop to check-raise all-in (with this low SPR). Bet/folding doesn't seem great here. Although you are racing or behind, your opponent has you racing a LOT more than he has you behind and you're already getting nice pot odds.
What kind of hands do you expect to flat pre and shove flop here?
09-10-2013 , 07:06 AM
why would villian shove any better here if people consider folding kings here, kunt has a fd call L0L
09-10-2013 , 08:19 AM
people love to do wtf moves in these spots trying hard to look fos and get paid in lieu of balance. 21/14 is the type pf player to do this **** with nuts

I misread the odds earlier I'd call, but wouldnt be shocked if i was crushed
09-11-2013 , 08:36 AM
Meh, the more I think it, the more it looks like a fold. If he really is 21/14 then it should became even more fold. I called and lost against 33. Ty for the replies as always guys!

      
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