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You cant seriously have me beat here................ can you? You cant seriously have me beat here................ can you?

09-05-2007 , 08:42 PM
This is literally the first hand of this session and villan is a complete unknown. I've been noticing seeing alot of players(weak players) making small flop raises against cbets on bluffs lately. So i decided not to give this up on the flop. If he bet at that turn card i was gonan just throw my hand away, but that check threw me off.

The river action is the only concern here. His turn check made me think that he could have been on a flush draw, had a weaker Jack, or have been on a bluff and decided against double barreling. I think if he had two pair, set,Q10 then that K wouldnt keep him from betting again on the turn. With that being my thought process, i felt nothing but confidence making that river value bet, begging for a call. I think my pot odds + the fact that i can beat soooooo many hands he pushes here makes this an easy call.

Whoever thinks i should fold here, please support it with reasons why.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($59.30)
Hero ($100.90)
BB :#A500AF(villan)/ ($95.65)
UTG ($42.55)
MP ($160.40)
CO ($133.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, J.
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5, BB :#A500AF(villan)/ calls $4, UTG folds.

Flop: ($11) 9, 4, J (2 players)
Hero bets $7, villan raises to $18, Hero calls $11.

Turn: ($47) K (2 players)
Hero checks, villan checks.

River: ($47) J (2 players)
Hero bets $23, villan raises to $72.65, Hero calls $49.65.

Final Pot: $192.30
09-05-2007 , 08:43 PM
Call. I quite like a river checkraise.
09-05-2007 , 08:46 PM
you can't fold. there are so many weaker Js in his range and if he has Jacks up on the turn he would have bet. i can't see you being behind here on this river unless this guy totally misplayed a set.
09-05-2007 , 08:52 PM
do unknowns rr Jx on that flop? (honest question). i dont log many hands so meh...
09-05-2007 , 08:53 PM
Quote:
do unknowns rr Jx on that flop? (honest question). i dont log many hands so meh...
lots of unknowns are bad, and bad players will raise this flop often.
09-05-2007 , 08:57 PM
KJ has you screwed, as does Q 10 and that's how some donks will play 2pr on the turn/fh on the river. This seems like a snapcall, but if you think about it, what hands are we legit ahead of? QJ, J10, QQ, and AA are the only real hands I can see someone calling a raise with preflop and playing as shown. I can't see myself folding this, but I wouldn't be surprised to lose
09-05-2007 , 08:59 PM
Quote:
KJ has you screwed, as does Q 10 and that's how some donks will play 2pr on the turn/fh on the river. This seems like a snapcall, but if you think about it, what hands are we legit ahead of? QJ, J10, QQ, and AA are the only real hands I can see someone calling a raise with preflop and playing as shown. I can't see myself folding this, but I wouldn't be surprised to lose
if he's bad enough to check KJ on this turn, then he's bad enough to shove worse Js on the river.

i would be very surprised to lose this hand
09-05-2007 , 09:04 PM
on second thought, yeah it is a quick call. Maybe i've just seen J9 been flipped over too many times

      
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