Not a lot of hands on villain. He's running at about 24/14/1 so far over 40 hands or so. He beat me at a pot immediately prior to this one when he flatted j9s ip, floated a rag flop with no pair no draw, turn went check check after he spikes a nine, river was an ace I bet he called.

Comments on all streets please. River is definitely a fold imo, but not sure about flop/turn play against this guy. River seems like a clear value bet after flop and turn get checked through.

Poker Stars $1.00/$2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $210.05
MP: $289.85
CO: $248.00
BTN: $724.35
SB: $36.00
Hero (BB): $153.00

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with J J
1 fold, MP calls $2, CO raises to $9, 2 folds, Hero raises to $32, 1 fold, CO calls $23

Flop: ($67.00) 6 A K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($67.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($67.00) A (2 players)
Hero bets $35, CO raises to $177, Hero folds right?

wtf about that riverbet?? do you srsly think you'll get called by worse? as played I fold w/o even thinking about it. after that I punch myself for burning money!

U serious? Riverbet is like the most standard part of the hand imo. Wondering more about flop/turn and wtf he can have here. Also want to know if my river bet sizing is ok. Obviously looks weak but I doubt he is cabable of bluff shoving 88 here.

if that riverbet is standard I suck at poker

apparently you do suck. and i do too cause at SSNL i bet the river about never, but i do suck at poker.

fwiw i dont think you get value from many hands, its so thin and i hate variance so i dont mind checking.

and the rest of teh hand is fine

I think I bet that turn.

riverbet is most certainly not standard. now call.

my problem is that by checking twice you have got no information on your opponents hand. after that flop i would definitely put a small bet on the turn (trying to represent that i gave a free card on flop as my hand was so strong but now I’m trying to build the pot). but if the villain starts putting any money in the pot i muck as fast i can. Further more I cant see what you where trying to achieve with the bet on the river?

I'm confused. The river bet is obviously a value bet. Villain has something in the range of 77-QQ and random air a lot here and I'm way ahead of that range, and people at this level aren't very good at folding.

yeah good bet since he's "value-bluff-calling" you with AIR

youre all weak tight pussies

well - he checked behind twice. I would say that's quite a lot of information.

What, where did I say he was calling with air? I just said it was in his range. I don't give a **** if he folds air. I'm trying to get value from the pair portion of his range.

i think the riverbet is atrocious. he can easily be checking down KQ or KJ or something. he calls way more iwth those than say TT or wahtever. just c/f every street there's really never any reason to bet esp since he's a floater. if you were deeper (like at least full stacked), i would consider betting flop and shoving turn or betting turn after he checked and shoving river (both as bluffs obv) but with that small of a stack all you can really do is c/f each street.

perfect, river is a little questionable, good checks otherwise

not particularly- he could just as easily be trapping, drawing or just not like his hand at all (unless you have a good read on his play). any bet on the flop, on the turn and you have a much better idea of where you are, as he either lays down or plays- making an easier and cheaper fold. after all, it does not have to be a big bet as you are trying to represent a huge hand so a small bet could well be scarier.
the villain probably thinks the hero has QQ/JJ while the hero is none the wiser as to the villains hand. unless i knew the villain was an absolute donkey who would pay me off with a week pair then the bet on the river makes no sense to me.

I agree he can have those hands too but I think it is less likely than underpairs and I doubt he folds any pair here.

you don't think he atleast bets the turn with KQ, KJ having seen us check twice? Similarly does he really raise with KJ, KQ on the river? I think I would call mainly because I am confused as to what the hell he is doing.

This guy is a 24/14/1, not some superstar like me, he's probably checking back a lot of kings, ****, maybe even a rag Ace here.

So are you also checking this river spivey?If the guys calling range on the river here is 77-QQ, KQ,KJ, then a river bet is neutral ev but honestly I think in rr pots this guys range given the action is skewed a lot more towards underpairs than kx which would make a value bet here pretty +ev. I can't imagine not value betting QQ+ here. What would your cutoff be? Same question to hotbacon too. JJ is pretty much my cutoff in this spot fwiw.

dude valuebetting JJ in this spot is spew. He could have trapped you with a weak A or just been cautiously with KQ, KJ (even though I wonder why he would turn his bluff catchers into bluffs). You might (!!!!) get paid off by TT, but **** I dunno if he wouldn't just let it go. What is your 3betting range from the BB after he opens the CO? He only beats a bluff and that's what you have turned your hand into on the river. I'd be happy to see a cheap showdown with this hand and be happy to take down the 67 bucks.

I expect that you miss out on a lot of value from the hands that you play, you dont have to have the nuts to bet you know! I like the bet but i think i fold to the raise unless i know this player is capable of making moves in this spot.

I don't get it. Am I so off in this one?? If villain is somewhat capable he will see that you are not repping much when you bet this river. I'd be so tempted to bluffshove with air in this spot. I mean; you would never play a hand like this that can stand much heat in this spot. I am a big fan of thin value bets, don't get me wrong, but this is just an awful spot

Well I posted a hand we played immediately prior to this one in the op showing that villain is pretty loose and doesn't like to fold. No reason for me to believe that he's suddenly going to find the fold button here. I'm pretty sure if I posted this exact line with J high instead of JJ people would be saying that I would be lucky to get q high to fold against this guy.

I'm completey aware that he could have me beat, but I still think his calling range here is behind JJ. This is the case even if he has stuff like KQ or KJ in his range.