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Two standard flop spots Two standard flop spots

04-18-2008 , 07:22 PM
Small stakes (50-200NL), TAG villain, you're viewed as TAG, 100BB effective stacks.

Hand 1:
Villain opens 4BB, hero calls in blinds with KQ, head up pot.

Flop QT5

Hero? If you check assume villain bets 6BB - then what?

Hand 2:
UTG opens 4BB, hero calls UTG+1 with JJ, head up pot.

Flop T 6 2

Villain bets 6BB. Hero?
04-18-2008 , 07:33 PM
3-bet both?
04-18-2008 , 07:34 PM
Call both w/o history.
04-18-2008 , 07:50 PM
First of all I would probably never be flat calling either of those hands FWIW. Hand 1 I would be 3ballin it unless villain had the nittiest stats of all time.

Hand 2 I would def 3ball against basically ANY villain unless he hadnt raised a hand in like 50 orbits.

As played call call with the intention of not folding good turns/rivers.
04-19-2008 , 04:23 AM
I want to limit the discussion to the flop only, there are obviously good arguments to 3-betting both hands pre, but assume we call.

Further questions:
1. Anyone considers donking hand 1? (either b/f or b/c)
2. What about a raise in hand 2?

      
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