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07-30-2008 , 01:25 PM

KingsTown

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 570

Villain is 20/18/2.98 (1,877 hands)

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): $200.00
SB: $83.95
BB: $58.40
UTG: $240.00
MP: $203.00
CO: $99.75

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with T

UTG raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17.00) 5

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $12, UTG raises to $36, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($89.00) K

(2 players)
UTG bets $52, Hero folds

07-30-2008 , 01:35 PM

Vayez

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 173

An UTG TAG raiser checkraising that flop looks incredibly strong, I might even fold the flop. I might also shove it if he's proven to be tricky enough.

07-30-2008 , 01:38 PM

The4thFilm

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 13,472

c/r as PFR is a pretty bizarre line

07-30-2008 , 01:42 PM

Vayez

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 173

Quote:

Originally Posted by The4thFilm

c/r as PFR is a pretty bizarre line

It is exactly that, but more important is what you make of it (it seems to be a current trend though, I see it more and more often). His stats make me assume he's doing that intentionally, that's why I think his range is quite polarised at this point.

07-30-2008 , 01:50 PM

n4rf

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,722

what's his c/r flop % and cbet %?

Villain could just be assuming that you're taking a stab given the low board. You have to know a little more about villain imo to have a better idea of what to do.

07-30-2008 , 02:14 PM

j00hndayton

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,408

I like folding the flop. Here is a perfect example of deciding your line before you call. If you were gonna call the flop your plan was to fold if a card higher then a 10 hit? That doesnt really seem to change much since his range most likely isn't two over cards. Also consider he just fires again when the K hits his hand looks real strong. Obv. its player dependent but looking at this guys stats I don't think hes running some sort of weird utg bluff.

07-30-2008 , 02:16 PM

KingsTown

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 570

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4rf

You have to know a little more about villain imo to have a better idea of what to do.

Yeah, I know. That's why I'm unsure. What d'ya do with no read?

07-30-2008 , 02:25 PM

TPTK77

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,438

w/o a read or history here, i like folding the flop. a c/r coming from an utg raiser on a low flop looks incredibly strong. also, it puts you in a way ahead, way behind situation since you will have no idea where you're at. he can have flopped a set with 55,77,88 or is c/r KK, AA hoping you have a mid pair.

i just don't ever see villains get cute and take lines like this from utg w/o the nuts IMO

07-30-2008 , 02:30 PM

Ranma4703

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Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,102

This is one of those hands were it is helpful to have a read, instead of useless stats. Readless, just fold, but you're probably folding the best hand a lot of the time. Reverse implied odds and all that.

07-30-2008 , 02:32 PM

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ImPokerStar

adept

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 945

yea agree with most posters that its a really strange line villian has took so im ALWAYS folding turn if not trying to fold on the flop after being c/r. What i think is important is were he raised from (UTG) and the amount he 3bet to ($36) into a $29 pot imo this just screams strength at me.

pretty standard.

07-30-2008 , 02:47 PM

#11

KingsTown

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 570

Quote:

Originally Posted by TPTK77

i just don't ever see villains get cute and take lines like this from utg w/o the nuts IMO

What!? If he knows anything about my play he'll know that I'll take the initiative almost always and bet this flop with or without a hand.

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