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04-10-2010 , 09:59 AM
Just satz down on the table. Do you call the turn again?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($107)
BB ($100)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($69)
Hero ($105)
BTN ($33.50)

Dealt to Hero A J

UTG raises to $3, fold, Hero calls $3, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($7.50) J 7 T

UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

TURN ($19.50) J 7 T 6

UTG bets $12, Hero ???
04-10-2010 , 10:06 AM
He probably fires it with all his flush draws, I'd call turn and fold if he bets the river
04-10-2010 , 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoMetDeBanjo
He probably fires it with all his flush draws, I'd call turn and fold if he bets the river
+1. He has a couple of worse Jacks too.
04-10-2010 , 01:10 PM
I'd call. If river is a spade and he bets fold. If river is a spade and he checks, check behind. If river is blank and he bets, call. If river is blank and he checks, check behind.
04-10-2010 , 01:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yodachoda
I'd call. If river is a spade and he bets fold. If river is a spade and he checks, check behind. If river is blank and he bets, call. If river is blank and he checks, check behind.
+1, might bet the river on blank card though
04-10-2010 , 01:37 PM
shove
04-10-2010 , 02:24 PM
def call.
04-10-2010 , 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yodachoda
I'd call. If river is a spade and he bets fold. If river is a spade and he checks, check behind. If river is blank and he bets, call. If river is blank and he checks, check behind.
Call a 3rd barrel if river is a blank?!
04-10-2010 , 04:05 PM
Considering we have no read on our villain.

I think we should just call. We do have position and a hand with showdown equity.

The villains range will mostly comprise of flush draws. So flat and fold to a bet on the river on a spade.
04-10-2010 , 04:11 PM
I'd be curious to see a pokerstove of our equity vs villain's turn betting range. Any stats/reads on villain?
04-10-2010 , 06:25 PM
what about raising to 29 and fold to a reraise?
04-10-2010 , 06:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMachine
what about raising to 29 and fold to a reraise?
Why?
04-10-2010 , 06:49 PM
1/take control of the hand
2/charge draws
3/charge J+fd
4/simplify decision on river
Cons are that he fold every bluff and worst hands + might make us fold better hand if he reraise ai with fd
04-10-2010 , 08:07 PM
1/take control of the hand
2/charge draws
3/charge J+fd
4/simplify decision on river
Cons are that he fold every bluff and worst hands + might make us fold better hand if he reraise ai with fd
04-10-2010 , 09:52 PM
Sounds like the cons have it
04-10-2010 , 10:19 PM
Here's a quick stove I did of what a TAG UTG's turn barreling range might look like on this board. The first one has a wider range, including KJ, 9s9x, 8s8x, and a few more semibluffs. The second is a tighter range, mostly for value, with all his AsX semibluffs thrown in as well.

We need about 28% equity to call turn, and we have it if his range is somewhere between these two samples. I call turn and fold to a reasonable bet on most rivers.


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

2,816 games 0.005 secs 563,200 games/sec

Board: Js 7s Ts 6c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.322% 57.95% 04.37% 1632 123.00 { TT+, 9c9s, 9d9s, 9h9s, 8c8s, 8d8s, 8h8s, 77, 6c6s, 6d6s, 6h6s, AsKs, AsQs, AJs, KsQs, KJs, 98s, AcKs, AdKs, AhKs, AsKc, AsKd, AsKh, AsQc, AsQd, AsQh, AJo, AcTh, AsTc, KsQc, KsQd, KsQh, KJo }
Hand 1: 37.678% 33.31% 04.37% 938 123.00 { AdJd }


2,200 games 0.005 secs 440,000 games/sec

Board: Js 7s Ts 6c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 74.045% 68.45% 05.59% 1506 123.00 { TT+, 77, 6c6s, 6d6s, 6h6s, AsKs, AsQs, AJs, KsQs, 98s, AcKs, AdKs, AhKs, AsKc, AsKd, AsKh, AsQc, AsQd, AsQh, AJo, AcTh, AsTc, KsQc, KsQd, KsQh }
Hand 1: 25.955% 20.36% 05.59% 448 123.00 { AdJd }
04-11-2010 , 04:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trial0r
Sounds like the cons have it
04-11-2010 , 09:34 AM
haha
04-11-2010 , 10:28 AM
call one more but a good aggro opponent can barrel off here

      
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