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Tough spot with TPTK Tough spot with TPTK

02-20-2009 , 04:18 PM
Villian is 22/18/1.3 over about 50 hands. He's taken advantage of squeeze spots and 3b light (17%). Been TAG after the flop. probably thinking. Other guy is 17/15/1.2 and is TAG but chases with stuff and is a little more passive/donkish than numbers indicate. I've been dealt a good run of cards and am running 31/22/3.5

I really hate my play on every street honestly and am lost on river.

At the time of the hand I was really trying to pin down BTN's range cuz it's so wide pf and i think so tight on the flop.

He doesn't have to raise a 9, but JT is kind of there? I think if you're aggro and you want to play JT here you jam turn and try to win the pot. so 79s-A9s and 89o-J9o A9o and 99 are all the 9's i can put in his range. I guess if he's looking me up 88,TT,QT,QJ,KQ and if he's drawing JT.

As for UTG he just seems like he's scared in this spot but i can't really put him on a range that plays like this TT/JJ? AA/KK sure didn't seem present unless it's being super nitty wanting to go to showdown. AK with the double peel especially with stupid odds on turn? possibly. AQ? definite possibility.

Party Poker $100 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 44578
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CO: $172.27
BTN: $100.00
SB: $363.98
BB: $23.50
UTG: $152.74
Hero (MP): $219.62

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with A Q
UTG raises to $3, Hero calls $3, CO calls $3, BTN calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($13.50) 9 Q 9 (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $9.62, CO folds, BTN calls $9.62, UTG calls $9.62

Turn: ($42.36) 4 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $24, BTN calls $24, UTG calls $24

River: ($114.36) 7 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero???
02-20-2009 , 04:22 PM
I have no defense for turn bet, my thought was this is as good as 28 (2/3) for folding out the hands that were just peeling on the flop and makes the middling hands that i'm crushing confused and they'll stay along, (no one is turning them into bluffs). Also the size means that when button shoves into two tightish players on the turn i can fold. This was my reasoning tear it to shreds.
02-20-2009 , 04:49 PM
I like how you played it so far, I put BTN some kind of a medium strength made hand (QJ-AQ mostly), if he had a monster he'd raise at least on the turn imo. UTG's hand really looks like a draw figuring he's getting a great price.

I'd probably b/f or c/c river, but this is a really tough spot so I might be totally wrong, waiting for more replies.
02-20-2009 , 05:54 PM
I think you have UTG beat here, he probably has something like 77-10010, KQ. Is BTN capable of not raising that turn with a 9? I would probably check call river here.

What do people think of shoving this river for value?
02-20-2009 , 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sbfootball_84
I think you have UTG beat here, he probably has something like 77-10010, KQ. Is BTN capable of not raising that turn with a 9? I would probably check call river here.

What do people think of shoving this river for value?
So i think if you c/c you're hoping that all the times that btn bluffs with JT, (which i think is like the only hand that wouldn't be ok to check behind cuz everything else has SD value) make up for all the times that he would've called a push but instead chkd behind. This makes me think that a push is better than a c/c so it's between c/f and c/c.
02-20-2009 , 07:09 PM
I either river shove or check fold but probably river shove since button only has 64 left and I doubt UTG checked the river with a 9 with a pot sized bet left in his stack . I think check call is pretty bad as I doubt JT is going to bluff in to 2 people representing a slowplayed 9.

Last edited by amoeba; 02-20-2009 at 07:14 PM.
02-20-2009 , 08:35 PM
I'm most worried a bout BTN in this spot as they don't need to raise a 9x hand at any point, given the board texture, stack and pot sizes. At the time I'd probably sigh and shove.

      
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