Villain 24/20/f3 50/4b 2.2/wtsd 26 - 150 hands

No reads on villain

Whats our best option on the river?


I feel like its very hard to get called by worse when we shove because villain would raise almost all 2P+ earlier in the hand. I guess villain can have 98s J8s 78s which could be enough incentive to jam.

what do you guys think?


BTN: $70.72
SB: $101.75
Hero (BB): $100.00
CO: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with J J
CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, CO calls $7

Flop: ($20.50) 9 6 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $11.25, CO calls $11.25

Turn: ($43.00) J (2 players)
Hero bets $24.50, CO calls $24.50

River: ($92.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero?

Shove vs 2 pair.

You can't really c/f against his range (vs unknown opponent) and shoving is better than c/c since, with 2 pair, he would call your shove far more often than bet this river if you check to him.

The only time you can c/f is if you have a read of someone who is really, really passive.

Probably a shove.

close between shove and c/c

if you check, w/o info, i think its a c/f because i dont think that oppo is capable to turning 2pairs into a bluff here.. obv vs an aggro player you can play c/c..
i probably shove and try to take money from 2pairs.. the only str8 here are T9s and Jts (and you have blocker for this hands)

Shoving and c/f is closer than shoving and c/c imo

ATcc KTcc QTcc

I dont think you can shove here. He has 13 straightcombos if you include TT but only 5 or 6 2pair combos, depending on if he calls J8s pre. So your options are either c/f or c/c here. Both kinda suck against unknowns, the main question is if he bluffs enough FD combos here to make you call whatever his sizing may be. Him bluffing busted draws would not be that unlikely here imo since your check looks pretty weak, I doubt that many players would put you on a straight here. So if you saw him bluffing rivers in past hands or just think that he is pretty aggressive, i'd go for the c/c. If you think the general tendencis on your limit/site are not aggressive enough for this, c/f. Or argue like this: You are likely at the top of your range here so if you fold JJ here you are exploitable to general aggressive tendencies since you are folding your whole range.

Why betting on this flop 1/2? I cb this flop with a depolorized range, so I want to make a bigger cb.

this. if he really raises sets earlier in the hand J8s,98s,78s and 88 which miight herocall are max. 9 combos vs JTs,T9s,TT,QTs,KTs, and ATcc (qt and kt make double gs ott)=19 combos.
Of course this is only speculating and some opponents will calldown w A9s or whatever and if u want to be balanced (depends how many Tx,5x are in your 2barrel range) u probably hav to shove this for value if u consider this a good bluff opportunity.