Villain is 22/17/7. Prior to this hand he's done nothing to suggest he wasn't a winning player like his stats suggest.

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
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6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($313.50)
UTG+1 ($370.25)
Hero ($267)
BTN ($227)
SB ($201)
BB ($67.60)

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is CO A Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, BTN calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: 9 A 5 ($17, 2 players)
Hero bets $12, BTN raises to $38, Hero calls $26

Turn: 3 ($93, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $24, Hero calls $24

River: 10 ($141, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $158, Hero??


So obviously his turn sizing is terrible. I would usually CR on the turn but once he makes such a terrible bet size a lot of the draws that I'd CRAI with as a bluff now call so I decided to call my entire range. I'm not sure about this, but CRAI doesn't feel like it really accomplishes much and it's an akward stack size and fact he makes such poor sizing allows me to exploit him by calling more so alas I called.

I'm not sure if I should call river since it's quite apparent I'm not very strong once I just call turn, or if someone bad enough to make that bet sizing on the turn is probably bad enough to only do something that silly for value and I should fold.

So his betsizing confused you and defined your range and it's terrible?

I don't really think you are at the top of your range.
fold river

I don't understand why you think that if he had bet bigger, you'd fold out his draws with a CRAI, but since he bet small you can't fold out his draws with a CRAI. You realize that he'd be getting a better price to call the CRAI had he bet bigger, right? (For instance, if he had bet pot, and you shoved, he'd be getting OVER 3:1 on a call. With his current sizing, if you shoved, he'd be getting LESS than 2:1 on a call.)

Anyway, I fold river.

I'm not sure if I should call river since it's quite apparent I'm not very strong once I just call turn

does not compute?

If he bets like a big boy, I'm getting worse odds to call with my draw. Because of that, a CRAI for me with a draw becomes better than a c/c.

When he bets like this, c/c becomes superior to CRAI since I am getting such insanely sick odds.

Yes.

Just because a bet defines my hand doesn't mean it's not terrible. Someone could min raise me on a JT8tw flop, and if I call his min raise OOP I'm obviously marginally strong and/or drawing. That doesn't make his bet sizing not terrible.

How does this not compute?

I honestly don't get how everyone is so confused....

Oh. You were referring to how you'd play if you had a draw; I thought you were referring to what you expected villain to do with a draw when you CRAI'd.

I wouldn't be super-concerned about balance (i.e., playing your made hands like draws) at these stakes; I can almost guarantee you that this guy won't notice.

That said, if I called the flop raise, I'd play turn the same way (but not for the reason of it being the same way I'd play a draw).

The main thing I'm confused about is how you determined villain is a winning player based solely on preflop stats.

Because if your hand is so well defined as top pair then he knows you will have a hard time calling this bet....

I am mostly confused why would you usually c/r turn.

if i had never seen him make weird bet sizes before, i would probably assume his turn bet is sized small to induce a checkraise, and when the river bricks he bets big repping a missed draw to get max value from Ax

if he had a draw i would assume he would bet big on the turn for folds or just take the free card

sometimes i see spazzy fish players bet small on the turn and then pot the river as a bluff, reasoning that since their minibet wasn't raised on the turn the villain won't want to call a big river bet - but i don't see this type of small turn bet > big river bet bluff thing so much from regs

he reps a narrow range, though

he would probably 3bet 99, so i guess he reps aces up or bottom set, which isn't a lot of stuff meh

.. or he has exactly what he's repping. A draw on the turn that turns into a bluff on the river.

why would he bet so small with a draw? seems like most people would want to bet big for fold equity or take the free card.

bomb wtf would he bet the turn like that with a draw?

OP, fold.

Subzero_folds and makes a note

what don't you understand about his statement/ By not shoving the turn and just c/c'ing he's exuding weakness

And what do you do Mr. Bam Yeah?

Have you guys never seen a fish bet small with a draw?

so ppl generally like a call?

results?

I called and he had A9o, though obviously results don't really matter.

I find the making weak turn bets followed by huge river bets can be a really effective weapon. Invariably the opposition will snap off my river "bluff" with a much weaker range than they would have called with otherwise. Clearly this is risky on this board with a flush draw present but if I had strong reason to put you on an ace and I held a set, then I might well consider playing like this. Against the correct opponent this can be a profitable play.

not sure what you beat that would make you call. He was pretty sure you had a good ace and confused you with his overbet.