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11-29-2008 , 12:17 PM
1/2 at the casino. Table is very tight and straightforward. I have about $300 and villain has about 210. Have only played two or three orbits at this table but everyone is very tight, including villain. I won a nice pot off a guy who limped AQ on the button when I posted with Q5 and flopped two pair. People are not betting their big hands for value on the river and happy checking it down.

It limps to me with 44 and I call. Villain is BB and he raises to $18. He almost certainly has a pair and I put him on JJ. I call and guy to my left calls. Flop 4 5 J rainbow. As the flop comes out Im watching villain and his face lights up. Im not someone who is always looking for pupil dilation and anything crazy. I just want to see if I can pick up anything obvious and it seemed that this guy really liked the flop. He bet $20 into a $60+ pot. We both call. Turn is 7 offsuit. He instantly bets $100. At this point my instinct is telling me Im beat. He went from 20 to 100?? I think a bit and I dont know how I can fold a set here. But part of me is screaming higher set. I make a crying call. Other guy folds. River is a blank. He shoves for 75.

What do you guys think villain has?
11-29-2008 , 12:25 PM
guy who is happy with QQ/KK that no A fell on flop?
11-29-2008 , 12:29 PM
He could have JJ, but the fact is he shoved 75 into a pot of 320ish which means you're getting over 4:1 when he could just as easily have AA, KK or QQ. After you called the 100 on the turn you surely have to go all the way with it. I don't see how this could ever be a fold.
11-29-2008 , 12:51 PM
Of course you have to call 75 on the river if you called 100 on the turn. youre not reinventing the wheel here.

The question is what does villain have?
11-29-2008 , 10:38 PM
and why on earth do you call a preflop raise when the best kind of flop for your hand you still consider folding.
11-29-2008 , 11:31 PM
Shove turn. Cry more about coolers.

Seriously people come the **** on, you don't fold sets 100bb deep.
11-29-2008 , 11:42 PM
Almost 12 hrs and nothing but silly, thoughtless replies.
11-29-2008 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 5m0k3nMIRRORS
He could have JJ, but the fact is he shoved 75 into a pot of 320ish which means you're getting over 4:1 when he could just as easily have AA, KK or QQ. After you called the 100 on the turn you surely have to go all the way with it. I don't see how this could ever be a fold.
Exactly.

There is no way you can fold this, even at the tightest 1/2 casino table.
11-29-2008 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pionero
Almost 12 hrs and nothing but silly, thoughtless replies.
Incorrect. You are 100 bb and you FLOPPED THE NUTS.

Why are you playing 44 preflop if you're not going to get all your money in with a set?

I don't know why reading this response just tilted the hell out of me, but it did.

Please keep playing incorrectly. And sitting at my tables. Thanks.
11-30-2008 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pionero
It limps to me with 44 and I call. Villain is BB and he raises to $18. He almost certainly has a pair and I put him on JJ.
This is absolutely crazy.
11-30-2008 , 01:29 AM
He's representing JJ86, one of about 300 possible Omaha hands that could beat you. You can't call. You can only fold... or go all in, if you don't believe him.
11-30-2008 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pionero
What do you guys think villain has?
An opponent who is ridiculously results oriented.




Shove the Turn and fistpump.
Putting him on exactly JJ is beyond silly.
11-30-2008 , 03:15 AM
this is live amirite? get it in
11-30-2008 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by pionero
Almost 12 hrs and nothing but silly, thoughtless replies.
What do you really expect? You want to fold a set in a live 1/2 game for 100bb. Just never fold sets and you'll end up ahead in the end.
11-30-2008 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pionero
Almost 12 hrs and nothing but silly, thoughtless replies.
lol @ this

Don't fold ever.
11-30-2008 , 04:52 AM
OP, this thread is so pointless. The only way that folding would be good here would be if you had some sort of sick soulread, in which case input from other people who weren't in the game is completely useless. Complaining about silly, thoughtless replies after making an OP that actually is silly and thoughtless is pretty ironic.
11-30-2008 , 05:02 AM
given ur read pf I'm pretty sure you don't have implied odds to try and catch quads on the turn.
11-30-2008 , 05:38 AM
More often than not villain has AJ or KJ. I'd be happy to ship it.
11-30-2008 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by blah-blah-blah
given ur read pf I'm pretty sure you don't have implied odds to try and catch quads on the turn.
this.. FOLD FLOP TURN & RIVER !!! WTF ! its obvious someone else folded a 4 so you're drawing dead..OP you hate maney ??

Last edited by aseHigh; 11-30-2008 at 06:17 AM. Reason: SN? if you do play online
11-30-2008 , 06:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pionero
Almost 12 hrs and nothing but a silly, thoughtless OP.
fyp



you have to put him on the exact suites of JJ pf, otherwise you cant fold

btw this is ridiculous, how can you even put someone on exact one hand preflop?
11-30-2008 , 07:04 AM
You put him on JJ and JJ is the nuts on this flop. Since you have only one out, you should just fold the flop.
I hope you folded the river.

And you shouldn't post here. People here are not good enough to put opponents on just a single hand. Instead, they just think with "ranges" which is pretty useless since you don't know when you're beat or not on that flop because he could have AA or JJ but good players like you know when they are ahead or not.
Still, I'm really disappointed that you don't listen to your instinct and make that call on the flop.
11-30-2008 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pionero
Have only played two or three orbits at this table but everyone is very tight
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Villain is BB and he raises to $18. He almost certainly has a pair and I put him on JJ.

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11-30-2008 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Spurious
fyp



you have to put him on the exact suites of JJ pf, otherwise you cant fold

btw this is ridiculous, how can you even put someone on exact one hand preflop?
Guess we have a live superuser

Op, obvious you are way way ahead of our thought process. Pls don't post anymore so we dont feel so dumb.
11-30-2008 , 11:46 AM
Well if he had JJ you should have volded the Flop... So obvious!
11-30-2008 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Madmaniac21
Shove turn. Cry more about coolers.

Seriously people come the **** on, you don't fold sets 100bb deep.
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Originally Posted by poincaraux
This is absolutely crazy.
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
An opponent who is ridiculously results oriented.




Shove the Turn and fistpump.
Putting him on exactly JJ is beyond silly.
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Originally Posted by Snamuh
lol @ this

Don't fold ever.
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Originally Posted by Rythm
OP, this thread is so pointless. The only way that folding would be good here would be if you had some sort of sick soulread, in which case input from other people who weren't in the game is completely useless. Complaining about silly, thoughtless replies after making an OP that actually is silly and thoughtless is pretty ironic.
These are the most important replies.

      
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