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Theory: Position

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07-07-2008 , 07:00 PM

Gkeuler

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 313

Im wondering if there are any good posts out there about position and how it can effect preflop hand selection, the books and many posts go over the basics but I was wondering anything existed that delved a little bit deeper.

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Great point on position fizzle. It also applies to sets but it is just part of the considerations that adjusts your range toward the 5 rather than the 10.

You are right the effect is much greater when potentially drawing. I'll throw out some more estimates and maybe you or others can refine them:
1. you have a 5.6% chance of flopping big made hand, ~90+% equity =>
Expectation 60% of effective stack in position
Expectation 40% of effective stack OOP
2. you have a ~7% chance of flopping a strong (12+ outs) combo draw, ~50% equity =>
Expectation 25% of effective stack in position
Expectation 15% of effective stack OOP
3. you have a ~13% chance of flopping a standard OESD or FD, ~35% equity =>
Expectation 7% of effective stack in position
Expectation 2.5% of effective stack OOP

EV(IP) = .056*.6S+.07*.25S+.13*.07S-.75B = 0
EV(OOP)= .056*.4S+.07*.15S+.13*.025S-.75B = 0

IP situation: 0.08*S=B or our preflop bet should be <8% on average
OOP situation: 0.05*S=B or our preflop bet should be <5% on average

Leading to:
IP 5-10 rule
OOP 3-7 rule

From the post " Suited Connectors, Implied Odds, and You (Theory/Math) " in the master sticky

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...0&fpart=3&vc=1

that whole post was incredible and now I would like to read a little bit more about how position can effect preflop hand selection in more ways then I currently understand.

ps- Im terrible at wording posts, hope you can help

07-07-2008 , 07:02 PM

orange

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theory: position rules

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07-07-2008 , 07:07 PM

carnivalhobo

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,994

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange

theory: position rules

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i was going to say position is good, but yea orange got it

07-07-2008 , 07:09 PM

Gkeuler

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 313

does being oop then not rule? and if this is so and I indeed want to rule I shouldnt play oop right?

07-07-2008 , 07:31 PM

DennisGPunkt

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,326

OOP only play hands that are way ahead of villains range. Also try cutting down on his implied odds by 3betting if your hand is ahead of his opening range.

Thats about it.

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