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09-29-2009 , 10:23 PM
that hand is so ****ing ridiculous. also loooool @ the picture with the link
09-29-2009 , 10:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfdish
hmm maybe. ima fish. i thought i had fold equity vs QQ+ but i guess not.
lol wtf

your turn play LOOKS like you want a fold. why would anyone actually fold
09-29-2009 , 10:39 PM
sometimes i actually want to fold because i level myself thinking "why would he actually do this if he wanted me to fold" but then i remember that i play 1/2.
09-29-2009 , 10:43 PM
HU4ROLLZ!
09-29-2009 , 11:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfdish
JThh

ill admit i smiled when the cards got turned up :-D

In other news im finally up lifetime at 2/4 and only 6k below ev. feels good
I like djjs play and am confused as **** but yours....were you bluffing? I think it's a terrible bluff. You said you didn't expect him to be betting something like TT so it's a terrible value bet too. I just don't get it.
09-29-2009 , 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfdish
hmm maybe. ima fish. i thought i had fold equity vs QQ+ but i guess not.
lolololol NEVER
09-29-2009 , 11:12 PM
i guess im a nit then, i certainly thought he had slight amounts of fold equity, although it still looks like a terrible bluff to me so i agree with bilbo
09-29-2009 , 11:26 PM
how can anyone like bet/calling TT there? gl finding one exact hand that TT beats, that i play like this even 50% of the time that i have that specific hand. No chance.

Making wild assumptions that someone's range is 100% bluffs/semibluffs in a spot like this, is pretty stupid. But cool, whatever works for you. Besides, mixing it up is good.

And geez, there are 1000s of hands i played way worse than this, at least find one thats really bad and berate me on that.
09-29-2009 , 11:28 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
Hero ($101)
BB ($100)
UTG ($157)
UTG+1 ($90)
CO ($104)
BTN ($100)

Dealt to Hero J A

UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, fold, BTN raises to $6, Hero calls $5.50, fold, UTG calls $5, fold

FLOP ($20) A A 7

Hero checks, UTG bets $5, BTN raises to $18, Hero

Villain is pretty solid tag. I feel he'd ISO with a wide range of worse aces so idk, is this std cooler? Let's say we call, fish folds and turn is 5x and it gets checked back.
09-29-2009 , 11:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfdish
how can anyone like bet/calling TT there? gl finding one exact hand that TT beats, that i play like this even 50% of the time that i have that specific hand. No chance.

Making wild assumptions that someone's range is 100% bluffs/semibluffs in a spot like this, is pretty stupid. But cool, whatever works for you. Besides, mixing it up is good.

And geez, there are 1000s of hands i played way worse than this, at least find one thats really bad and berate me on that.
nobody presented this hand to berate you. it got posted as a strat inquiry and generated some beratement. relax
09-29-2009 , 11:44 PM
lolpoker
09-30-2009 , 12:04 AM
I'm rusty.

Villian seems very fishy, no relevant stats yet but seems pretty LP. Turn/river thoughts? If it's a non river, I am shoving yes?

Also, is my turn betsize terribad? I was trying to get value from his pair+FD hands and set up an easy river shove.


Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $207.70
BTN/SB: $90.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A A
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, BTN/SB calls $7

Flop: ($20.00) 7 9 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, BTN/SB calls $12

Turn: ($44.00) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $25, BTN/SB calls $25

River: ($94.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $43.40 all in, Hero folds
09-30-2009 , 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MalkasGambit
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
Hero ($101)
BB ($100)
UTG ($157)
UTG+1 ($90)
CO ($104)
BTN ($100)

Dealt to Hero J A

UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, fold, BTN raises to $6, Hero calls $5.50, fold, UTG calls $5, fold

FLOP ($20) A A 7

Hero checks, UTG bets $5, BTN raises to $18, Hero

Villain is pretty solid tag. I feel he'd ISO with a wide range of worse aces so idk, is this std cooler? Let's say we call, fish folds and turn is 5x and it gets checked back.
Id call it a cooler. Im torn between shoving and flatting. If we flat the fish may come along, but it pretty much says we have an Ace to BTN. If we shove the fish may drop out, but it looks like an overplayed FD to BTN. Id probably still shove. Fish love FD's too much to ever fold.
09-30-2009 , 01:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by terp
relax
he's just grumpy cos he's a kiwi.
09-30-2009 , 02:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfdish
how can anyone like bet/calling TT there? gl finding one exact hand that TT beats, that i play like this even 50% of the time that i have that specific hand. No chance.

Making wild assumptions that someone's range is 100% bluffs/semibluffs in a spot like this, is pretty stupid. But cool, whatever works for you. Besides, mixing it up is good.

And geez, there are 1000s of hands i played way worse than this, at least find one thats really bad and berate me on that.
I was basically hoping to see 89 or random unpaired hearts and at the time it was a lot easier to see those hands in your range than hands that had me beat. Obviously I was wrong but I wasn't sure if my general assumptions were incorrect without a great read.
09-30-2009 , 02:55 AM
this game is such a ****ing whore

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB)
SB ($1,007)
BB ($869)
Hero ($932)
UTG+1 ($435)
CO ($452)
BTN ($443)

Dealt to Hero 4 A A K

Hero raises to $14, fold, CO calls $14, BTN raises to $62, fold, fold, Hero raises to $206, fold, BTN calls $144

FLOP ($432) 4 K A

Hero bets $84, BTN calls $84

TURN ($600) 4 K A 3

Hero bets $600, BTN calls $153 (AI)

RIVER ($907) 4 K A 3 8

Hero shows 4 A A K
(Pre 62%, Flop 81.2%, Turn 42.5%)

BTN shows T 2 5 8
(Pre 38%, Flop 18.8%, Turn 57.5%)

BTN wins $904
09-30-2009 , 03:00 AM
Terp, you got too many cards there, pardner.
That's your problem.


09-30-2009 , 03:04 AM
LOL that's the worst possible way to flop the nuts on a dry rainbow board. That's why I only lasted 4 months as a PLO reg.
09-30-2009 , 03:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysu
i guess im a nit then, i certainly thought he had slight amounts of fold equity, although it still looks like a terrible bluff to me so i agree with bilbo
a) no one folds overpairs

b) NO ONE FOLDS OVERPAIRS

c) this line screams "PLEASE FOLD"

d) NO ONE ****ING FOLDS OVERPAIRS
09-30-2009 , 03:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfdish
how can anyone like bet/calling TT there? gl finding one exact hand that TT beats, that i play like this even 50% of the time that i have that specific hand. No chance.
what lol? really?

I can't be bothered to dig them up but this like, pair+gutshot about 88% of the time, a reg trying to outlevel another reg with a set/straight 10% of the time, and Jx with a flush draw the other 2%. Now, if you really thought he was betting less than Jx for value here, then congratz on an awesome levelling value-raise, but by your own admission, you didn't, so w/e

Edit: for clarification

Your implication that b/c ing with AA there is any different than b/cing with TT is just ridic confusing. Basically, 90% of opponents are bluffing there and 10% are not bluffing. You chose to bluff with Jx and got ridic lucky imo
09-30-2009 , 03:48 AM



IPoker Network $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $18.00
SB: $49.00
BB: $100.00
UTG: $163.16
MP: $139.70
Hero (CO): $158.80

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with K K
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $7.50

Flop: ($22.50) 4 8 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $19.00, Hero raises to $45, UTG calls $26

Turn: ($112.50) 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $107.66, Hero calls $103.30 all in

River: ($319.10) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $319.10
UTG shows 9d Ts
UTG wins $316.10
(Rake: $3.00)
09-30-2009 , 03:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo-san
a) no one folds overpairs

b) NO ONE FOLDS OVERPAIRS

c) this line screams "PLEASE FOLD"

d) NO ONE ****ING FOLDS OVERPAIRS
09-30-2009 , 03:53 AM
geez bilbo, i get it, ya dont like the line.
09-30-2009 , 03:57 AM
got dropped by my backers, so its my first day grinding tourneys on my own money, started out only with small **** and im on the final table bubble of a giant 26$....

rsxpunk on ftp if anyones bored
09-30-2009 , 04:00 AM
Speaking of folding overpairs...

Vs. some guy who's playing 20/13 and pretty passive post-flop. 3betting about 7% and in general I have a feeling he's pretty suspicious of me. Which is weird, because I'm playing uber tight this session, but I dunno, just have that feeling. I haven't seen him show down much, but what I did see has been like standard AA, KK, AK etc.

He absolutely snapcalled preflop after I took a while to decide on my 4bet size. Then I thought for a little bit, well, honestly, mother****ing cursed a lot at the flop and checked back. Then he uberinstasnap mashed $60 out there. I hate life, can I fold?

Ongame Network $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BTN: $100.00
SB: $455.60
BB: $97.50
UTG: $50.75
Hero (CO): $185.70

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A A
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, SB raises to $11.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $35.50, SB calls $24

Flop: ($72.00) K 3 Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($72.00) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $60.00

      
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