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10-24-2010 , 03:33 AM

#476

jaysu

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i don't know, i've been extremely pissed off for a while and i'm not sure why

10-24-2010 , 03:33 AM

#477

_JerryD_

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysu

god i ****ing hate poker, i stacked ONE GUY this month in 1500 hands, and it was at 1/2, and i played a lot of 2/4 and 3/6, down like 3200 on stars and running bad on full tilt too

Yeah I just make these things up.... it's not what I "think" it's what I read

10-24-2010 , 03:34 AM

#478

jaysu

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that was like a few days into the month, and i assure you it wasn't because i suck at poker

10-24-2010 , 03:37 AM

#479

_JerryD_

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i never said you suck at poker, on the contrary that's what you implicitly hinted to me in "get coaching"

i just pointed out that I would think that someone who has had a bad month too in runbad or whatever would understand the frustration because not everything is going optimally

10-24-2010 , 03:38 AM

#480

jaysu

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well i apologize for you being paranoid and thinking that i think you suck, it's just that i used to post a lot of whining threads here until i realized that i needed coaching, so i figured i'd save you some time

i also apologize for that not being a proper apology but it is funny to me

10-24-2010 , 03:43 AM

#481

_JerryD_

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no hard feelings

coaching would be obv good, but to get a good coach that I would respect would be expensive and I've been doing this from 2006 without ever been coached and as I don't really have any big aspirations and am unsure how big part I want poker really to play in my life in future I've just left that possibility be. Fresh ideas would be great for sure.

10-24-2010 , 04:01 AM

#482

rsxpunk

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10-24-2010 , 04:56 AM

#483

Kowalski

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Some of those live tells were spot on and hilarious

Esp the stack two, karate chop the third with index finger

10-24-2010 , 05:59 AM

#484

bubaloo

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excellent post bilbo

10-24-2010 , 11:05 AM

#485

gorgeouss

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,225

Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

SB: $415.85
BB: $200.00
CO: $200.00
Hero (BTN): $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with Q

1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, BB raises to $20, Hero calls $14

Flop: ($41.00) 9

(2 players)
BB bets $24, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($89.00) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($89.00) T

(2 players)
BB bets $44, Hero ...

thoughts?
(obv not folding...)

villain is reggy looking, I have like 100 hands on him, 18/16, 4% 3b, must be moving up/down limits because I don't remember him at all.
basically no reads whatsoever, I'm assumimg standard nitty reg

10-24-2010 , 11:29 AM

#486

BuddhaMonk187

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his river lead is pretty bad imo and I prob just call, I doubt he calls with worse besides maybe 9Ts which he is not 3betting a lot. And i doubt he bets flop and chks river with AdKx.

mehh it sucks that he bet so small...

10-24-2010 , 11:29 AM

#487

craiggerz

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Raising for value sucks, so I'm assuming you want to bluff him off the 8d since he never has the Kd?

I'm curious to know why you aren't betting the turn, I feel like we should be betting small to set up stack sizes on the river.

10-24-2010 , 11:34 AM

#488

BuddhaMonk187

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I like the turn check considering our range.

10-24-2010 , 11:51 AM

#489

gorgeouss

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Quote:

Originally Posted by craiggerz

why does he never have the Kd? AxKd and KdKx can play this way with a nitty reg nearly 100% of the time

also me bluffing anyone off straight flushes is quite the wishful thought

10-24-2010 , 11:57 AM

#490

BuddhaMonk187

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gorgeouss

why does he never have the Kd?

I think it really sucks to play flop and turn like this with AxKd

10-24-2010 , 12:19 PM

#491

ADK

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Ofcourse he can still have the Kd and lol at trying to bluff him off a straight flush

10-24-2010 , 12:34 PM

#492

Bonk

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Raise/fold ? Also preflop is incredibly bad given his preflop stats.

10-24-2010 , 12:41 PM

#493

craiggerz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gorgeouss

why does he never have the Kd? AxKd and KdKx can play this way with a nitty reg nearly 100% of the time

also me bluffing anyone off straight flushes is quite the wishful thought

He'd have to be pretty bad to have the Kd. His river bet sizing is {Ad/8d/some other stupid hands} if he's decent.

I wasn't advocating a bluff raise, although I don't think it's quite as lol as people think if we had more reads about his skill level. I was just trying to find out what you thought your decision was because I think value raising is out of the question.

10-24-2010 , 12:45 PM

#494

BuddhaMonk187

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Quote:

Originally Posted by craiggerz

He'd have to be pretty bad to have the Kd. His river bet sizing is {Ad/8d/some other stupid hands} if he's decent.

i think the fact that he donks the river indicates that he's pretty bad imo

10-24-2010 , 01:32 PM

#495

orange

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ty for comments, carrot/mdom. i think the turn was a pot/call after thinking about it.

just got back from stillwater, OK last night for husker game. tired as ****, goddamn oakies down there.

10-24-2010 , 02:24 PM

#496

bubaloo

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $4(BB) Replayer

SB ($398)
Hero ($1,464)
UTG ($1,138)
CO ($320)
BTN ($427)

Dealt to Hero 8

UTG calls $4, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

FLOP ($10) 9

Hero bets $8, UTG raises to $21, Hero raises to $68, UTG calls $47

TURN ($146) 9

Hero bets $114, UTG raises to $301, Hero calls $187

RIVER ($748) 9

Hero bets $1,091 (AI), UTG calls $765 (AI)

Hero shows 8

(Pre 72%, Flop 73.8%, Turn 15.9%)

UTG shows 8

(Pre 28%, Flop 26.2%, Turn 84.1%)

Hero wins $2,275

10-24-2010 , 02:30 PM

#497

bilbo-san

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BuddhaMonk187

i think the fact that he donks the river indicates that he's pretty bad imo

He didn't donk river. He bet flop/cked turn/bet river. That's not what donking means.

If hero had bet turn and he had c/ced turn, this would be a donk bet

The point is that villain has had the initiative the whole hand and I don't think it's weird for him to value bet Ad/8d/Kd