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03-09-2011 , 01:18 AM
i'm guessing you had a read, but even still, wtf are you doing? he still has a heap of spazzy bluffs that beat you. nh though cos you got the chips.
03-09-2011 , 01:47 AM
PLAYING TEH POKERZ/NOBODY CAN CALL WITH QUEEN HI

Last edited by GoodGame; 03-09-2011 at 01:53 AM.
03-09-2011 , 02:47 AM
word
03-09-2011 , 12:11 PM
thoughts vs 16/14 nit?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) On Game
Hero ($63.35)
BB ($80.08)
CO ($121)
BTN ($72.10)

Dealt to Hero 6 6

fold, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1, fold

FLOP ($3) K 6 2

Hero checks, BTN bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

TURN ($7.50) K 6 2 7

Hero checks, BTN checks

RIVER ($7.50) K 6 2 7 8

Hero checks, BTN bets $10, Hero raises to $25, BTN raises to $68.60 (AI), Hero folds

BTN wins $56

should I just flat the river overbet as he's kind of polarized?
03-09-2011 , 12:20 PM
dont know if anyone has posted this but noahsd has written an interesting article on variance in 6m

http://www.nsdpoker.com/2011/03/nlhe_6m_pros/
03-09-2011 , 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtylobster
thoughts vs 16/14 nit?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) On Game
Hero ($63.35)
BB ($80.08)
CO ($121)
BTN ($72.10)

Dealt to Hero 6 6

fold, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1, fold

FLOP ($3) K 6 2

Hero checks, BTN bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

TURN ($7.50) K 6 2 7

Hero checks, BTN checks

RIVER ($7.50) K 6 2 7 8

Hero checks, BTN bets $10, Hero raises to $25, BTN raises to $68.60 (AI), Hero folds

BTN wins $56

should I just flat the river overbet as he's kind of polarized?
you should just c/r the flop assuming he's a nit and unlikely to barrel you
03-09-2011 , 03:23 PM
i can't believe he would check the turn with KK/77 so are you putting him solely on 88?

edit: just noticed the river overbet - this polarizes him quite a bit on the river and probably weights him towards missed value type hands no? i might be inclined to just flat and think that a nit probably isn't calling a c/r with worse
03-09-2011 , 06:23 PM
Mmh my thought process was along the lines that I fold out the majority of his range by checkraising the flop. Nits "pot control" turns here with a lot of Kx hands (even AK) so river is an easy check as played. A viable option would thus be to take the lead on the turn but I don't know if it's more +EV than checking given that I can cr turn or river if he keeps on betting (depending on card/betsizing). Given the river overbet I think I should've just flatted. I can very well imagine him "tarping" w/ 22/77/KK on the turn. However I don't see him having the balls to 3b bluff hardly ever even if he did decide to overbet river with a whiffed fd.
03-09-2011 , 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtylobster
Mmh my thought process was along the lines that I fold out the majority of his range by checkraising the flop.
you do fold out most of his range but you end up stacking a range of hands that you otherwise only make 20-30ish bbs from by c/cing, and keeping that weak range in does not really get more value from bluffs and weak hands anyway because nits don't barrel much

I tend to agree that no one 3b bluffs river at these stakes but the question is, is he smart enough to know that 3betting worse than 77 for value is terrible?
03-09-2011 , 10:07 PM
was it in the cheese thread that someone posted about how you can setup your HEM to seperate into sessions when you take small breaks in between your sessions but it records it all together as one session? how to do, or link to post? or who posted it?
03-09-2011 , 10:12 PM
Don't know who but I just did it today so here's how it works.

Go to your Hem folder (RVG software in program files) then go to the config folder. go to holdemmanager.config (something like that), open it with note pad and hit CTRL F. Type in time, hit enter, go to "SessionTimeoutDuration=30" and make it 5 or whatever you want it to be.
03-10-2011 , 01:00 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $4(BB) Replayer
Hero ($759)
BB ($229)
UTG ($108)
UTG+1 ($1,054)
CO ($604)
BTN ($419)

Dealt to Hero Q Q

UTG raises to $12, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $36, fold, UTG raises to $60, Hero raises to $759 (AI), fold

Hero shows Q Q

Hero wins $124

I almost spat my tea out when this happpened.
03-10-2011 , 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cberasi
was it in the cheese thread that someone posted about how you can setup your HEM to seperate into sessions when you take small breaks in between your sessions but it records it all together as one session? how to do, or link to post? or who posted it?
I did! I want all the credit! Me! Me!

(What Malefiicus said)
03-10-2011 , 02:40 PM
http://dextercommunications.wordpres...ncer-in-women/


best scientific discover in the history of mankind?
03-10-2011 , 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCrow
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $4(BB) Replayer
Hero ($759)
BB ($229)
UTG ($108)
UTG+1 ($1,054)
CO ($604)
BTN ($419)

Dealt to Hero Q Q

UTG raises to $12, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $36, fold, UTG raises to $60, Hero raises to $759 (AI), fold

Hero shows Q Q

Hero wins $124

I almost spat my tea out when this happpened.
balancing his utg 4bet/folding range with 25bbs

3rd level thinking obviously - he clearled outplayed you
03-10-2011 , 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by czGLoRy
http://dextercommunications.wordpres...ncer-in-women/


best scientific discover in the history of mankind?
Isn't that an article from The Onion?
03-10-2011 , 04:45 PM
Swingy month so far.



I hope the trend of the last 2.5k hands continues for the rest of the month.
03-10-2011 , 04:55 PM
I'd kill for a swingy graph right now.
03-10-2011 , 05:00 PM
hand vs an obvious fish, small sample size vs him, only read is that he is likely to be splashy and erratic. 45/23. sample size on his 3 bets too small to give me any good info.

I've just about always called these flops bets. Wondering if raise/stack off is actually better with this specific hand?

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8164392

    BTN: $246.50 (123.3 bb)
    SB: $224.20 (112.1 bb)
    BB: $127 (63.5 bb)
    UTG: $214.35 (107.2 bb)
    MP: $172.50 (86.3 bb)
    Hero (CO): $250 (125 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 A
    2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $6

    Flop: ($25) 9 3 2 (2 players)
    BB bets $12, Hero ????



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    03-10-2011 , 05:05 PM
    i think i tend to call there as a default, but i imagine raising smallish, like 28-32, will ensure we get it in against a wider range. these kinds of players hate folding for small amounts when they have any kind of equity (and sometimes none)
    03-10-2011 , 05:24 PM
    given his stack size I definitely prefer raise/call flop to calling turn since our hand many turn cards hinder our ability to extract the maximum
    03-10-2011 , 05:30 PM
    Think I'm going to start raising instead in similar spots.

    He may actually play later streets better than I do in this spot. I'm really guessing about his tendencies and ranges based on other fish that might fit a similar mold, but with only 30 hands on one of these guys I just don't have enough info. Plus lots of "scare cards" for my specific hand that are better for his likely range than mine and I don't expect these guys to give up the betting lead very often.

    I've definitely been jammed on before by stuff that I'm doing really well vs like 55, ax, something completely random. Plus I think they peel with a ridic range as well and I get in a lot of spots where I'm happy jamming a lot of turns if he just calls.
    03-10-2011 , 06:27 PM
      Full Tilt, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8164762

      CO: $416 (104 bb)
      BTN: $525.35 (131.3 bb)
      SB: $371.30 (92.8 bb)
      BB: $549 (137.3 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $1,136.90 (284.2 bb)
      MP: $420.50 (105.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5 5
      Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, BTN raises to $42, 2 folds, Hero calls $30

      Flop: ($90) 4 8 6 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $49, Hero calls $49

      Turn: ($188) Q (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $99, Hero calls $99

      River: ($386) J (2 players)
      Hero bets $946.90 and is all-in, BTN folds

      Results: $1,332.90 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 4 8 6 Q J
      BTN mucked and lost (-$190 net)
      Hero mucked 5 5 and won $1,329.90 ($193 net)



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      Sometimes you just gotta be a gangster

      edit: it goes w/o saying that 99% of the time my line is awful but i had some hubris from winning 16 buyins at 2/4 today so i decided to be a gangster.

      Last edited by klink10k; 03-10-2011 at 06:33 PM.
      03-10-2011 , 07:29 PM
      Funny HH, seems like you most likely had the best hand though.
      03-10-2011 , 07:29 PM
      haha

            
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