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*** SSNL CHEESE THREAD JULY 2008 *** (low-content posts, ?'s go here) *** SSNL CHEESE THREAD JULY 2008 *** (low-content posts, ?'s go here)

07-29-2008 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Naakka
After the first hand it was obvious he was on monkey tilt, after the last hand it was obvious I was so I had to close the tables.
Obvious you were on monkey tilt because you felted KK against a tilting maniac? Or did you just smash your keyboard or something?
07-29-2008 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chiTown22
I believe this blog is in Dutch. Anyone here read dutch? I'm curious why my sn is mentioned. The free translation I got from some site doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Something about... new best friend, but his chat is banned... 100nl and his last $200. ????

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?u=...&hl=en&ie=UTF8
Haha, awesomes, that's one of the Dutchies who was doing the vids, interviews and live-reporting for the WSOP this year (for Dutch pokernews).

Basically, he thinks you're a fish and he won a couple buy-ins off of you in February (date of the blog) when he sat at 100NL with his last $200.

His nick's probably in one of the other blog entries.
07-29-2008 , 04:01 PM

New best friend
I have an extensive friends but since this week I have a new best friend. His name is Chitown22. Curious first name, I know only through my chatban I have not very many interviews conducted with him and can not ask why his parents named him so. Anyway, if I play ga I search him often and when he is online ga I cozy with him. Sometimes I have to wait but I voted for a best friend best. As I said we have not much to talk but I have a lot of indications that he will find me very nice because he gives me cents each. I think he has enough because he gives others sometimes what.

The friends where I spend Friday and Saturday that I have not even told but I hope they will understand if I tell them that I have a new best buddy.

I've met him in a 100nl table where I was sitting with my last 200 dollars and thanks him again, I have enough cents to 50nl to play with confidence after many hours of gravel.


Lawls.
07-29-2008 , 04:05 PM
HEM is ****ing terrible. I can't even find where the **** it's installed on my computer. this is so incredibly tilting.

edit: found it under RVG Software after waiting 3 minutes for a Windows search.
07-29-2008 , 04:10 PM
god i hate poker, can i run good like one time?
07-29-2008 , 04:11 PM
**** anyone who says the cashout curse isn't real
07-29-2008 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
Obvious you were on monkey tilt because you felted KK against a tilting maniac? Or did you just smash your keyboard or something?
Obviously I felt that every time, just meant that after the hand I almost threw my headphones at the wall and was shaking because I was so mad so I figured it's a bad idea to continue.
07-29-2008 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidacid
**** anyone who says the cashout curse isn't real
Amen.
07-29-2008 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ClutchCity
Yeah, I know HEM is better now. I also know that eventually PT will be great.
How do you know this?

Wait, wtf?

HEM was first to market. HEM was faster out of beta. HEM is better at responding to customers. HEM is faster at integrating new features. HEM is faster at implementing new sites.

PT2 ran the same piece of software for 7 years, and didn't do a god-damn thing to innovate despite its customers wishes until the PokerAce people BOUGHT THE COMPANY.

And yet you have some mystical belief that PT will reverse all of its historical trends, and HEM will suddenly go from a moving target to a standstill.

WTF?!

Is this how you develop reads at the poker table too? "EVERY time he's raised so far he had the nuts, so I'm pretty sure he's bluffing this time."
07-29-2008 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Imrahil
HEM is ****ing terrible. I can't even find where the **** it's installed on my computer. this is so incredibly tilting.

edit: found it under RVG Software after waiting 3 minutes for a Windows search.
This is RVG's fault HOW?

I mean it's pretty ****ing pathetic that Google makes software that can search WINDOWS faster than MS can. Lol.
07-29-2008 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushleague24
speaking of HEM, anyone know how to get rid of the feature that shows the amount of money has been won in the past few pots in the hud?
you realize that you can click on those to show the hand history right? i find it to be pretty useful
07-29-2008 , 04:51 PM
Bilbo-san, your caustic and infallible iron logic is an inspiration to us all. =)
07-29-2008 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMagus
you realize that you can click on those to show the hand history right? i find it to be pretty useful
Yeah the instant hand history tool is pretty much the nuts.
07-29-2008 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bilbo-san
HEM was faster out of beta.
HEM was rushed to market for the sake of beating PT3 and was just as unusable in its initial releases as people accuse PT3 of being.

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PT2 ran the same piece of software for 7 years, and didn't do a god-damn thing to innovate despite its customers wishes until the PokerAce people BOUGHT THE COMPANY.

And yet you have some mystical belief that PT will reverse all of its historical trends
PT's historical trends are pretty irrelevant, as Pat (the guy who made PT) has nothing at all to do with PT3. PokerAce pretty much just bought the PokerTracker brand name. Josh is doing all the development and if you want to talk product history it would be more accurate to look at PokerAce HUD, which was a fine piece of software imo.
07-29-2008 , 05:43 PM
Woah woah woah, looks like I almost got scammed last night, thank god I had way too much of something and was subsequently paranoid.

Turns out that there is scam going on where people are creating accounts similar to that of people that trade frequently, i.e., "elstunar" / "esltunar." The one with the period was the scammer. Look out for a guy named Nimbus. as well.

Anyone need FTP for stars
07-29-2008 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bilbo-san

Is this how you develop reads at the poker table too? "EVERY time he's raised so far he had the nuts, so I'm pretty sure he's bluffing this time."
Yeah okay...

I was only referring to the fact that PT was the industry leader for a long time and after reading a lot about PT3 and using it for quite some time now, I can see it has a lot of potential. And, I don't think it's a bad program but just that the commercial release was released too soon. I've had a lot of annoying problems with it, so I'm not gonna give it a great review.

I DLed HEM earlier this morning, and I was fully planning on buying it as well and switching to it asap. However, the import speed is atrocious. I exported my PT3 DB of 1.3M hands and HEM has only imported 150K hands in the past several hours and it shows that it will take another 1 day and 21 hours to complete. That's a joke. Unfortunately, I might just have to end up sticking with PT3.
07-29-2008 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bilbo-san
This is RVG's fault HOW?

I mean it's pretty ****ing pathetic that Google makes software that can search WINDOWS faster than MS can. Lol.
Because they put it under ****ing RVG Software !!! I was looking for Hold em manager in my "Program Files" and couldn't find it. Plus HEM didn't make a menu in my Start menu nor did it make a desktop icon so I couldn't even use it.
07-29-2008 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bilbo-san
How do you know this?

Wait, wtf?

HEM was first to market. HEM was faster out of beta. HEM is better at responding to customers. HEM is faster at integrating new features. HEM is faster at implementing new sites.

PT2 ran the same piece of software for 7 years, and didn't do a god-damn thing to innovate despite its customers wishes until the PokerAce people BOUGHT THE COMPANY.

And yet you have some mystical belief that PT will reverse all of its historical trends, and HEM will suddenly go from a moving target to a standstill.

WTF?!

Is this how you develop reads at the poker table too? "EVERY time he's raised so far he had the nuts, so I'm pretty sure he's bluffing this time."

I've had great customer support with PT3 during the beta. Also, PT3 allows custom stats which HEM doesn't.
07-29-2008 , 05:57 PM
ha I had that same problem. I woulda never guessed it'd be under RVG.
07-29-2008 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
HEM was rushed to market for the sake of beating PT3 and was just as unusable in its initial releases as people accuse PT3 of being.
But it stayed in beta WAY longer than PT3 before they charged money for it.


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PT's historical trends are pretty irrelevant, as Pat (the guy who made PT) has nothing at all to do with PT3. PokerAce pretty much just bought the PokerTracker brand name. Josh is doing all the development and if you want to talk product history it would be more accurate to look at PokerAce HUD, which was a fine piece of software imo.
Well, in a way part of my point was that PT has no historical trends to speak of that would lead you to believe they will turn out to rock here.

Also, while I think PAHud was decent software, almost none of it had the kind of functionality that PT3/HEM require.

Put it this way, if I decided for some ******ed reason that I really wanted to enter this market, and I wanted to hire a developer, Josh would be way, way, way lower on my list than the HEM guys. He's basically playing catch-up, and there really isn't any reason to believe that HEM's team is going to sit still and let him catchup. They've already learned from all the mistakes that Josh is still making.

I realize that past performance is not necessarily an indicator of future success. But Clutch's statement amounts to the belief that past performance is a negative indicator of future success, which is really kind of lol.
07-29-2008 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ClutchCity
Yeah okay...

I was only referring to the fact that PT was the industry leader for a long time and after reading a lot about PT3 and using it for quite some time now, I can see it has a lot of potential. And, I don't think it's a bad program but just that the commercial release was released too soon. I've had a lot of annoying problems with it, so I'm not gonna give it a great review.

I DLed HEM earlier this morning, and I was fully planning on buying it as well and switching to it asap. However, the import speed is atrocious. I exported my PT3 DB of 1.3M hands and HEM has only imported 150K hands in the past several hours and it shows that it will take another 1 day and 21 hours to complete. That's a joke. Unfortunately, I might just have to end up sticking with PT3.
You are DEFINITELY doing something wrong, because HEM imports much, much faster than PT3 for me. And it's not close.
07-29-2008 , 06:03 PM
nice, I think I may actually have found my comfort zone playing exactly 7 or 8 tables. Once I add 1 or 2 more I too often become discombobulated and make ****** plays.

yay me?
07-29-2008 , 06:04 PM
Well I'd sure like to know wtf is going on because right now I think both programs are pretty worthless. I don't see how I coulda f'd anything up. I installed 1.06e, connected to postgres and started the import... made a post about the slowness, rvg told me to upgrade to 1.06m, and it's still going slow. I'm importing all the text files from one 10GB folder. Sighhhh
07-29-2008 , 06:07 PM
PA HUD had a solid layout manager which no next-gen HUDs have at all. Also until very recently PT3's HUD was way better looking than HM's (it took a week in Vegas playing absolutely no online poker before I could use HM's HUD without being put on lifetilt which obv affects my poker playing). HM's recent updates seem to be causing bugs for some people after it had been previously stable for awhile.

I mean, we could have this argument all day, and I'm really just playing devil's advocate because I do in fact use HM and prefer it to PT3. I just don't get why you jump all over CC for his post and start defending HM with such zealotry.
07-29-2008 , 06:08 PM
i just look at people's names avatars and stack sizes and can instantly deduce if they suck or are the next TERRY SHAIVO

      
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