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01-15-2010 , 11:17 PM

Casher23

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 150

Played one orbit with villain without a hud. 3 bet once before.
Wanted to mix it up a bit and slowplayed flop. On turn I thought when I move ai I only fold out better and not many bad cards can come besides a Q or an A on the river, if I´m not already behind.

Full Tilt Poker $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $199.80
Hero (BTN): $200.00
SB: $295.10

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with K

Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $18, 1 fold, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($38.00) Q

(2 players)
SB bets $24.00, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($86.00) J

(2 players)
SB bets $50.00, Hero calls $50

River: ($186.00) J

(2 players)
SB bets $203.10, Hero calls $108 all in

01-15-2010 , 11:19 PM

Sjors

banned

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 623

Ship turn imo

01-15-2010 , 11:22 PM

CCM

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,528

Yah I don't mind your play but I think if you don't have any reads may as well just 4bet pre. Just go on holdem manager and see how profitable 4 betting KK is for you

01-15-2010 , 11:33 PM

Casher23

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 150

thought about shipping turn but why? which better hand will fold and which worse call besides AQ?

01-15-2010 , 11:49 PM

Sjors

banned

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 623

you'll get value from alot of p+flush/strdraw combos and there aren't alot of rivercards you'll like.

01-16-2010 , 01:17 AM

DoctorFarha

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,596

reraise preflop so you can ship the flop, or at least raise the flop and get it all in on the turn

01-16-2010 , 01:22 AM

pohlr96

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,414

I don't mind your play. If you thought in this scenario slow playing was your best option I trust you.

I would play this hand more aggresive vs. an unknown, usually I would have a reason to slow play here based on the player.

01-16-2010 , 02:39 AM

mindtricks006

adept

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,138

I'd 4bet an unknown pre.

As played I would of raised either flop or turn.

01-16-2010 , 03:17 AM

shat4brains

adept

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 962

once you get to the turn that way calling is definitely best. All shoving really does is prevent a possible tough river spot which is terrible reasoning for it, the only worse hand that is for sure calling is AQ, the only other hands that i can think of that he might call with that we beat are QT, 9Thh which are somewhat discounted just based on the way he played the hand.

he can easily have KT, T8, AA, QJ, Q9, J9, QQ, JJ, some people 3bet 44 too so that is sorta possible

01-16-2010 , 09:09 PM

#10

flesh

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 247

I also like raise F and get it in on the T. imo

01-16-2010 , 09:20 PM

#11

DevinLake

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 17,026

I think you played it fine. You can ship turn. But, his bet sizing is setting up for a perfect river shove, so I'd usually just let him continue with that plan.

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