Hi all, 1st hand post, hope it works out.

So i'm deep i've got a laggy image, and the player knows i can bluff. I put him on QJ, 1010, flushdraw or AIR hence river c/. Should i raise river or is it too thin? Thanks for comments in advance.

Villain 21/18 AF 3.2

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
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6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG wickednumbers444 ($185.42)
UTG+1 LE08TON ($156.70)
CO c0mte ($101.20)
BTN InkassoAB ($151.08)
SB gusanytwo ($126.55)
BB Hero ($190.92)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BB 8 6
3 folds, InkassoAB raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: K 4 A ($6.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, InkassoAB checks

Turn: 10 ($6.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $4, InkassoAB raises to $17, Hero calls $13

River: 9 ($40.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, InkassoAB bets $30, Hero goes all-in $170.92, InkassoAB calls $101.08

river line is ok

your turncall is really bad

I think a lot of players will be betting a pair of aces IP on the flop, unless you know villian likes to pot control deep IP? This is quite important, because if we know villian doesnt pot control then it helps a lot because Axcc are then removed from his range on the river which prolly makes this river more of a shove.

Theres only two other combos that he could have QJcc or maybe J8cc. And theres a lot more hand combo's he can stack with here because of your image.

NH nicely played

turn calls not terrible with the backdoor draw giving the implied odds that he stacks villian

The way you played it not raising the river would be worse then your turn call. And that is pretty bad

villian has every better fd in his range, hero's flush will not be hidden because of the backdoor given the action.


and imho river c/shove is too thin.

how about Qc2c-Qc9c,Jc2c-Jc7c a few AcXc which checked behind flop

agreed.

question to skibbel:

as played, if villain flats turn bet...do you just c/f any non club rivers?

agree w skibbel that the turn is a fold once you lead and get raised. If he delayed c-bets at all, I'd consider c/r the turn instead of leading. Readless on turn tendences once flop checks through, I think your lead is correct. The way it played out, I think c/c vs. c/r the river is pretty close- would like to see an equity calculation on this. You say he views you as capable of a big bluff, so that tilts it toward c/r as he can call you w sets/straights, maybe even 2pr. However, as skibbel mentioned, he does have several higher flush draws in his range and you'll be value owning yourself a good bit. Haven't worked out the math, but I'd probably just call river (if playing A game).

very villian specific.

best rivercards to barrel are imho J,Q,K.

Usually not a good spot to bluff river in general because most villians fold the turn a lot, so they usually got a piece when they call turn unless they have the FD themselves.

with the limited reads posted i don't think a riverbluff is profitable on a total blank

i raise because he shouldnt have a fd in his range... i mean he didnt cbet the perfect flop, so TT / QJ are much more likely than a fd, because i dont think he'd raise fd+pair on the turn knowing he looks fos

Hey guys thanks for the replies, he showed QJs for a frikkin str8 flush. I was really contemplating b/f turn but figured if he's slow played trips or has QJ he'l pay flush river, but for the times i miss and the higher flushes its not good, his steal was 35% fo skibbels fd hand range is probably correct.

Villian seems pretty TAG imo for that.

What was his steal % this will give a clearer picture of how light he is potentially raising

35% was steal so fd's are more likely.

turn call is fine.

3bet or fold pre. i don't really like the turn call. we're not getting good pot odds and, when you consider possible RIO, the implied odds just aren't very good either.

i dont really agree with this. people have such FPS these days, i dont think you can ever rule out a flush draw just because you wouldn't play it that way.

as played i think given history i probably shove here. i think he can prob look us up here with straights/sets/2pair. don't show resutls though, knowing he called biases responses.

hmm misread action wil lcome back to this one

ez shove on riv

there aren't a lot of aces in his range bc of the missed cb. there are like two queens at most and you have to believe he's cbetting Q9 or QJ most of the time here.

it doesn't really make sense for him to check behind the flop for showdown value with A5 in order to raise this turn.

wow such a big raise. i think river raise is totally fine, as JQ 2pair set is really in his range. very odd that he didnt cbet the flop.

Explain please

Why doesn't it make sense? Look how OP played his hand, it makes perfect sense imho

if he's playing for showdown value on the flop, why is he suddenly semi bluffing turn?

hmm you're right, but i think raising turn is still slightly better then betting flop with weak AcXc