Hey guys this is one of my first post. I'm currently playing 1-2 NL holdem on average twice a week. I'm trying to figure out if I should stay at 1-2 until im up to 10k in my bankroll. I currently have just over 8k. Started with 100$ playing .10 .25 at local home games. built my account up and slowley moved up to 1-2. My concern is moving up and hitting a bad streak {which from my graph has been the last few sessions} and dumping off 3k plus and having to move back down and grind. . I figure i'd be buying in at $500 a pop at 2-5 NL. Also considered playing 1-3 but think the game will be very similar. Any advice would be awesome. thanks.

Earnings: $8224.25 Avg. Return: $99.09 Return Std.: $280.89

Win Rate: $17.55/hr Avg. Win Rate: $16.71/hr Win Rate Std.: $47.90/hr

BB/hr: 16.50 Avg. BB/hr: 18.73 BB/hr Std.: 50.94

ROI: 40.1% Time played: 468h 30m Avg. Session: 5h 38m

ROI vs. DJIA: 3.67% Expenses: 0.00 Avg. Expenses: 0.00

Sessions: 83 First: 2009-07-12 Last: 2010-10-28

hit 10k then move up, solid play op keep it up for a bit more

I think you're running good, you should try 1-3 which is the game you're comfortably rolled for
you played 468 hours, which is something like 12K hands and that's not a very good indicator of your true winrate

your true winrate could be between $25 and $8 with a 95% confidence interval, so you're a winning player for sure
are you playing 1-2 in home games?

nm, live lol

^ Agree if u move up now and hit a little variance it will take longer to build your confidence and BR up again so keep up the grind until you hit 10-12k and be adequately rolled 4 the next level. WP OP

Yes all live games. The first big up swing in my graph at the 500-2k mark was at a casino in oklahoma (1session) but the the rest in home games.

if the games are easy and you are confident then move up now, since you are only 1 tabling when live it's not like you need a huge roll, and the games should be very soft if you choose them over playing online. you know you can always beat 1/2 if you need to drop down

That makes sense. I'm just really trying to practice proper bankroll management. I know i could slowly work in a 2-5 game once or twice a month just want some opinions.

it really depends how good you are and how good the opponents are. you should definitely play 1/2 and 1/3 still, especially if the games have more huge droolers, or are running more often, so i agree with working it in slowly, depending how often you play. if the game runs often enough for you to play 2/5 every time then i guess it's your call, but i only play online so i am not used to having to find a scheduled game when hundreds are running online.

if you severely outskill them (are these standard fishy home games?) then a 10 buyin roll is probably fine, especially if you are playing tight and just value towning them. but i'd play as high as i could at home games as long as there were no online regs or pros there, if our bankroll was small that is. if there are tough players then you need more money.

Move up imo. Live games are so soft and variance should be minimal cause of your expected winrate.

100bi rule. Move down

lol I'm going to assume you're joking
when your winrate is higher you need a lower BR

winstar or choctaw u wont find any good grind on 2-5 at choc the good 2-5 at winstar is mostly a 6max in the side room. 2-5fr in the open rooom plays like an agro 1-2 you can valuetown it eadily but u wouldnt stack with less than set

It was at the winstar. All 1-2 played for almost 30 hours but made a lil over 2k

I'm going to work in a biweekly 2-5 game and see how things go. I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks for the input. Its all been aco****ed for .

very true, but i feel like it the opposite works for me. I think i have a decent winrate because i play 100bi+. My wr was less when i had less awhile ago

seems like OP doesn't have this problem

Many of us will probably make the move to live poker in a couple of years if we are still playing. Sort of interesting stuff.

So you're looking forward to grinding out 30hands/hr ? (and you know everything there is to know about variance)


Just curious ... I've never played live, but can't imagine playing it tho

no, but you can achieve 30bb/100 if you can exploit live donks
I mean there's people who are drunk and just throw chips randomly into the pot ATC in random amounts
there's the I AM GOING TO BLUFF YOU people who will float/raise ATC because they don't want to be bluffed by you and then shove when you check to them on the river

you really can make a lot more thin hero calls because people's ranges are so loose and they're so bad

I won't. There are much more enjoyable things to do for a living for me personally. Live poker doesn't offer much freedom compared to online. I think when the games do dry up completely and/or the govt. shuts us down in 2-3 years, there will be more live hh's on this thread than online ones.

Man, I hope that it won't come to that. I like playing live now and then, but to have to grind out 25 h/hr would be torture... especially at 1-2.

UPDATE evryone. I had a descent week played 1-2 twice this week LIVE of course! 2 sessions walked away up 1246.00 . and making a run at the 10k mark. Check out the graph. I've decided to give it to atleas 10k to go 2-5 and even then only about once a month or so also mixing in a few 1-3 games as well. . An input is appreciated.

Earnings: $9215.25 Avg. Return: $107.15 Return Std.: $289.69

Win Rate: $18.92/hr Avg. Win Rate: $17.54/hr Win Rate Std.: $48.96/hr

BB/hr: 16.91 Avg. BB/hr: 18.79 BB/hr Std.: 50.42

ROI: 42.65% Time played: 487h 0m Avg. Session: 5h 40m

ROI vs. DJIA: 2.29% Expenses: 0.00 Avg. Expenses: 0.00

Sessions: 86 First: 2009-07-12 Last: 2010-11-04

basically I knew from this thread title that this would be

a) a minor brag thread masquerading as a search for advice. Like every thread with this title is going to be "gee I won 20+bb/100 what should I do I'm so confused?!"

b) about live poker (I can't explain it but live threads just always look different, have no reference to stakes in the title, are always super-general questions, etc)

c) written by someone with <25 posts.

Don't know what else I can say except given that live poker players deeper stacked than online 10k seems like a super-small roll to play 2/5. Good luck with it.

Oh and re: slugger most of us who play online aren't ever making the switch to live. There is absolutely no way in hell I would ever be a live pro. Not saying I wouldn't play live for fun sometimes but it's not even remotely comparable to being an online grinder (to be fair I don't play for a living now).

In my experience 1-2 plays exactly like 2-5, often with the same players.