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Rate my line with air, and who pulls the trigger? Rate my line with air, and who pulls the trigger?

07-25-2009 , 09:07 PM
Villain is 19/16 3 betting 8% over 3.1k hands, folding to 3 bets 70% of the time. Haven't much history with villain or much reads beyond his stats which are mainly mined, but he strikes me as one of the better regs at this level, he seems quite good.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($100)
SB ($100.50)
CO ($212.56)
Button ($198.98)
UTG ($143.23)
MP ($54.63)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, J
2 folds, CO bets $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 5, 4, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero raises $14.18, CO calls $10.18

Turn: ($34.86) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $25, CO calls $25

River: ($84.86) 9 (2 players)
Hero...

Thought process on every street...

Pre, I prefer calling in these situations than 3 betting, turning my hand into a bluff, folding out dominated hands and getting myself into annoying spots oop. My preference is to call and play aggressive post flop.

Flop...Comes good to check raise with air here. He'll bet this super wide, but his range for continuing should be quite narrow, and it helps that we've an overcard, and a backdoor straight and backdoor nut flush draw ftw

Turn...Here's where it gets interesting. He calls my check raise, which on that board implies he has decent showdown value but nothing too big as anything big is 3 betting me on the flop, so his range is mainly one pair hands, hands that beat a draw but hands that don't fair well against my value check raising range. Turn card comes perfect for me to represent I check raised with top pair and he should now be worried about trips, it's also a card many people wont barrel especially with a draw.

River...He flats me, again I'd expect a raise with any big hand, I'm ruling out all FH and probably good queens. So if his range here is mainly overpairs and weaker queens, does anyone like a river shove here? He should pretty much never expect me to do this with air bar maybe missed draw, but he should think he's facing pretty much my value range here and his range is figuring pretty bad against it. It's basically big queens and full houses, so he should figure to only beat a bluff and not be expecting me to bluff very often. So, does anyone like a shove here, we've a little under 60 to go in, or do we not expect him to call the turn and fold the river that changes little?

What range do you give him here, and what would you expect his calling range to be? Thoughts on all streets appreciated except pre flop as I know alot of people prefer a 3 bet here but I prefer flatting for a load of reasons and that's a different topic really...

Last edited by Sledgejammer; 07-25-2009 at 09:18 PM.
07-26-2009 , 01:04 AM
Really bad 2 barrel card.
07-26-2009 , 01:19 AM
Yeah, I like pre, and like flop, but turn is a bad card to fire again. Anything that calls flop insn't folding turn.
07-26-2009 , 04:35 AM
firing another barrel on river isnt goin to get rid of this guy if anything mabye he hut his boat on the river 99 anyone ?
07-26-2009 , 08:14 AM
Does the queen being a bad card to barrel not kinda make it a good card to barrel? He wont expect us to fire wide here and his range includes many more hands that don't like that queen then queens.
07-26-2009 , 08:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sledgejammer
Turn card comes perfect for me to represent I check raised with top pair and he should now be worried about trips, it's also a card many people wont barrel especially with a draw.
The only part that makes sense in that paragraph imho.
I don't like the turn barrel either.

So someone c/r your cbet on the flop and turn pairs top card... You seriously worry about them having trips now?

edit: also do you often c/r TP vs 19/16's I'm just curious?

      
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