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09-04-2007 , 04:49 AM

Oct0puz

adept

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 841

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BB ($105.05)
EP ($190.75)
LP ($110.2)
CO ($117.5)
Hero ($120.25)
SB ($84)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q

, Q

2 folds, CO raises $4, Hero raises $12, SB calls $11.5, 2 folds,

Flop: 8

, Q

, 7

($29)
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?

Villain is 20/9/1.21. Solid but too passive regular who probably gives a lot of respect to my 3-bet. PF I put him on TT-AA and AK.

09-04-2007 , 04:55 AM

auto111032

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 115

We don't have to do much to get it in here. I like $18.

09-04-2007 , 04:59 AM

Orsman

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 506

bet $20 and get it in on turn if he calls. Never check this flop!

09-04-2007 , 05:02 AM

therealpk

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 651

21 / 49 / shove

edit: i also like the line of the guy above me (getting it in on the turn is very good because if by some fluke he has like 9T or something, he won't get all in on a river that doesnt make his hand, but he'll never fold an OESD on the turn)

09-04-2007 , 05:09 AM

Bukem_

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,018

check, weak player like this can have ak.

if he has kk, aa, money will go in regardless.

09-04-2007 , 05:20 AM

Michaelson

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,378

Quote:

check, weak player like this can have ak.

if he has kk, aa, money will go in regardless.

Correctamundo

09-04-2007 , 05:24 AM

cs3

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 13,648

Quote:

Hero ($120.25)
SB ($84)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q

, Q

2 folds, CO raises $4, Hero raises $12, SB calls $11.5, 2 folds,

Flop: 8

, Q

, 7

($29)
SB checks, Hero?

sb only has 70 behind. you can check this flop and still get all in really easily on the turn/river.

09-04-2007 , 06:01 AM

docnuclear

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 541

Quote:

Hero ($120.25)
SB ($84)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q

, Q

2 folds, CO raises $4, Hero raises $12, SB calls $11.5, 2 folds,

Flop: 8

, Q

, 7

($29)
SB checks, Hero?

sb only has 70 behind. you can check this flop and still get all in really easily on the turn/river.

I agree with the above. Also raise more pf to 14 makes the pot bigger and cuts down on his odds to set mine. If you play a lot together and he is observant, you might want to bet flop for metagame reasons, ie get him to fold when you have air or AK and don't connect.

09-04-2007 , 06:12 AM

jeccross

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,807

I think it depends on how he sees you. If you think he has you down as aggressive and would hardly ever check here after 3 betting then I think a check looks suspicious. In this case I'd put a weakish bet out 3/5pot, i.e. somthing that looks like a cont bet. Also I don't like the check if you think he's likely to play AA/KK this way. If not then I agree a check would allow you to hope AK catches up or maybe let him think JJ TT is good nd you are stealing with AK when you bet turn and maybe still give you room to get it all in there.

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