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07-02-2008 , 01:40 PM

Kimpan

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opponent is 50/11/3 over 28 hands. Im running 38/23 iver 26 hands.

Party Poker $100 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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CO: $83.11
Hero (BTN): $136.16
SB: $65.73
BB: $100.00
UTG: $74.95

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with Q

1 fold, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, CO calls $4

Flop: ($11.50) 3

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($11.50) 3

(2 players)
CO bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($21.50) A

(2 players)
CO bets $12, Hero folds

07-02-2008 , 01:45 PM

Norvich

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make cbet on flop

07-02-2008 , 01:50 PM

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meh played fine

07-02-2008 , 01:54 PM

mdm13

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bet flop, theres a lot of value

07-02-2008 , 02:25 PM

TPTK77

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bet flop and c/f if you get any resistance.

as played, it's fine though. don't think you played it bad.

07-02-2008 , 02:29 PM

Kimpan

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if turn was a brick, like 2s, how bad would it be to raise?

07-02-2008 , 02:33 PM

TPTK77

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimpan

if turn was a brick, like 2s, how bad would it be to raise?

its tough to represent a big hand when the turn bricks since the flop is so drawy that you would be likely to bet almost 100% of your big hands (ie. combo draws, 2pairs, sets). if the turn came a 2 i would've called and re-evaluated on the river.

07-02-2008 , 02:35 PM

Kimpan

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the thought behind raising turn was to to get value out of draws.
I don't think we need to be thinking about what we represent all that much here against a 50/11 guy.

07-02-2008 , 02:59 PM

HoldEmNewby

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you played it fine.

07-02-2008 , 03:00 PM

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TPTK77

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do you think he bet/calls FDs on the turn?

07-02-2008 , 03:02 PM

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Kimpan

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FD/straightdraws, yeah I do.

07-02-2008 , 03:42 PM

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Kimpan

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no takers on raising a brick turn?

07-02-2008 , 03:56 PM

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TPTK77

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i like calling here 85%, raising 15%.

don't really want to play a big pot tough since he can easily have Kx hands in his range too which he is valuetowning. if you just call and a river bricks, you can prob call one more bet.

07-02-2008 , 04:06 PM

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Buff Disciple

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I like betting the flop to get value from 2nd pairs, floats and draws. Turn is prob a check. River fold obv

07-02-2008 , 08:20 PM

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Symbolic

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Well played

07-02-2008 , 08:53 PM

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bias1

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i think we are missing a lot of value from checking here on the flop.
the board is pretty drawy, so we can extract a lot of value from flush draws, open enders, and second pair almost never folds.

07-02-2008 , 09:11 PM

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Ra_Z_Boy

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If the board was drier I would like your flop check more. I think its played fine though.

07-02-2008 , 09:20 PM

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Panthro

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimpan

no takers on raising a brick turn?

cawl because a donk this aggro will fire on the river w/ all his missed draws (and we snap ldo). Showdown raise is ok tho.

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