Villain is Rabdaar, a solid reg who runs something like 24/20/3, I'm running about the same but have been somewhat quiet at the table. The only hand of note was a few orbits ago when I fired two barrels at a different player after the turn checked around and I was bluffing and got called down by a turned top pair, not sure if that'll really affect anything. In terms of the number of hands I'm playing at this table I'm playing a bit snug.

Rabdaar does three bet light sometimes but overall I don't think he gets too out of line. I think pf is fine given depth, on the river I think I can shove, fold, or call and there are merits to each

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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rabdaar (BTN): $838.50
Hero (SB): $931.00
gopheresque (BB): $1033.00
JS2 (CO): $802.50

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is SB with Q Q
JS2 raises to $14, rabdaar raises to $48, Hero calls $46, 2 folds

Flop: ($114.00) A A 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, rabdaar bets $74, Hero calls $74

Turn: ($262.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, rabdaar checks

River: ($262.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero checks, rabdaar requests TIME, rabdaar bets $172, Hero?

its a leveling war, in a vacuum you are basically never good, but your hand is pretty faceup as one that cant another bet after the turn. I guess it comes down to how wide his preflop range is/how often he cbets/would he play KK like this

What do you think abotu shoving as a bluff?

ehh dont really like it. Im pretty sure you would put in more action earlier with an A. The only hand he folds is KK imo, even if you rep nuts or air I highly doubt he would fold any A

also he knows you are solid so the only aces in your range are AQ,AK. So the fact that broadway pairs make up a big portion of your range makes this pretty marginal either way if you think he is decently aggro.

I really hate preflop, your hand is entirely face up and you are OOP. Not a good combination at all. To compound it, you've played the hole hand the way he would expect you to play {JJ,QQ}, which means by now he puts you on those two hands. Against a decent reg, I really hate actually having the hand that I know the reg is very likely to put me on when they have position.

I think shoving as a bluff on the river is pretty sick, but is he really going to believe that you would check an A on all 3 streets (note the question isn't whether you would do this but rather whether he is likely to believe that you would)?

Grunched - I think you have to call here. He can vbet JJ / TT here and some nonzero % of the time he has a missed draw / air. Shoving sounds sexy at first as I don’t think he ever plays an ace like this as it’s pretty unlikely he has one since AK bets turn, AQ has to be discounted, AJ is the most likely possibility, and smaller ace don’t necessarily 3b pre. Still – if he DID 3b a weak ace here – I still think he talks himself into a call a good amount of the time based on combinations (though every time I do this I rape myself).

I don’t like folding here as your hand is not really top of your range, but is definitely stronger than it appears.

What do you suggest I do pf then Bilbo? I agree it turns my hand face up but cold 4-betting is basically a bluff.

Call is lol bad. Fold is standard play here but

if you're going to bluff river here bet is > crai. His value betting range is AQ KK AJ obv, if he's a thinking player its much easier to call a crai with these hands than a bet. He's afraid of 1 hand and going for a crai here with AK would be missing out on a lot of value I think. Its much easier to rep AK with a bet and get folds out of more of his range I think, not to mention way cheaper. But regardless his most likely hand here is AQ and I doubt he folds it to either.

Agree here 100%

I would like to hear from the OP on why calling 3bet pf OOP with QQ in a 3way shorthanded game is a profitable play.

Because he's deep and doesn't want to 4bet? What do you do with QQ if he shoves over you 4bet?

shoving would suck as it really looks like JJ/QQ turned into a bluff. I'd likely fold river.

Wow I can't believe you mentioned that 24s hand. You have a good memory + aware of table image for 8+ tabling. I think pf your play is perfectly fine in this scenario; but I'll leave postflop up to others.

Holy sh@%(# just read rsxpunks responses, and they are really good (instead of standard one-word responses).

I'm also unsure if a c/r on the river on shpanko's part is even good with aq/ak.

gl on the transition to 2/4

Calling time on the river doesn't really help you if you decide to turn it into a bluff.

I really like Bilbo's analysis and it's right on.

He has too many aces in his range to call here imo. You could easily have AQ, AK so I'd expect him to pot control Ax this way since it's unlikely he'd get called on 2 streets by worse unless he checks back the turn. I think the checkraise bluff on the river is bad because he'll talk himself into it with Ax...if anything I'd overbet lead the river if I felt like turning it into a bluff

Would anyone, as played pf and flop, lead turn? Of course we shut it down if called/raised.

Occasionally he's betting JJ for value, so id fold.

Making the hand easier to play feels nice, but in a game of long-running shifting expected value, do you you really want this to be your definitive thought process?

As I see it, bluffing would be bad here given the strength of your hand, and the fact that he checked back the turn.

IME the vague read you provided on villain here seems pretty accurate, but I think there is a lot more value in 4betting pf than calling. He may flat IP with hands like AQs, TT/JJ, or AK. If you cooler yourself here it really isn't that big of a deal imo.

I don't mind calling river b/c as I see it villain is likely value-betting JJ here given stacks and 4 handedness, and you don't have to be good here very often to profit. I say he may bet b/c he may expect to value-bet QQ, and it's so unlikely you have KK or Ax at this point. Your pf range may be wider in his eyes than you think b/c of stack sizes.

You should also probably be value-betting the river b/c he may call with TT/JJ whereas he may otherwise check behind with them, you also set your price for showdown if you did c/c the river.

wtf raising the turn is infinitely worse than calling which is significantly better than folding

id fold river. i would assume that he follows through on the turn with most of his air, and that you dont have a crazy enough dynamic for him to bet worse on the river for value. check shipping the river is repping what you have and if he can hand read decently i would think he timebank calls anything that beats you.

delayed stackadonk?

+1 exactly.

no frigin way he checks turn with any ax. He's either making a valuebet with kings or on an airball.