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01-12-2009 , 08:48 PM
Hey guys I found a new feature in PT3 which allows you to produce graphs upside down. Pretty cool imo since I've never seen anything like this.

01-12-2009 , 09:10 PM
PokerStars Game #23844306315: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2009/01/12 19:56:41 ET
Table 'Mineura' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: x_QUIXTAR_x ($203 in chips)
Seat 2: BagClip2005 ($214.10 in chips)
Seat 3: martenJ ($206.35 in chips)
Seat 4: MaKiaVeli ($215 in chips)
Seat 5: Cobbo09 ($73.10 in chips)
Seat 6: bait455 ($425.95 in chips)
bait455: posts small blind $1
x_QUIXTAR_x: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BagClip2005 [2s 2c]
BagClip2005: raises $4 to $6
martenJ: calls $6
MaKiaVeli: folds
Cobbo09: folds
bait455: folds
x_QUIXTAR_x: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [2d 6c 9h]
x_QUIXTAR_x: checks
BagClip2005: bets $14
martenJ: raises $34 to $48
x_QUIXTAR_x: folds
BagClip2005: calls $34
*** TURN *** [2d 6c 9h] [2h]
BagClip2005: checks
martenJ: bets $72
BagClip2005: raises $88.10 to $160.10 and is all-in
martenJ: calls $80.35 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($7.75) returned to BagClip2005
*** RIVER *** [2d 6c 9h 2h] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BagClip2005: shows [2s 2c] (four of a kind, Deuces)
martenJ: mucks hand
BagClip2005 collected $416.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $419.70 | Rake $3
Board [2d 6c 9h 2h Qc]
Seat 1: x_QUIXTAR_x (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: BagClip2005 showed [2s 2c] and won ($416.70) with four of a kind, Deuces
Seat 3: martenJ mucked [6s 6d]
Seat 4: MaKiaVeli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Cobbo09 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bait455 (small blind) folded before Flop


***** Hand History for Game 23824765164 *****
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, January 12, 08:13:12 ET 2009
Table Renate IV (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: holdeps ( $291.45 USD )
Seat 2: forbreanna ( $101.20 USD )
Seat 3: Lord Valmont ( $106.70 USD )
Seat 6: BagClip2005 ( $134.35 USD )
forbreanna posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Lord Valmont posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BagClip2005 [ 5c 5d ]
BagClip2005 raises [$3.00 USD]
holdeps calls [$3.00 USD]
forbreanna folds
Lord Valmont calls [$2.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 8s, Ks ]
Lord Valmont checks
BagClip2005 bets [$7.00 USD]
holdeps calls [$7.00 USD]
Lord Valmont raises [$24.00 USD]
BagClip2005 raises [$124.35 USD]
holdeps folds
Lord Valmont calls [$79.70 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
Lord Valmont shows [8d, 8c ]
BagClip2005 shows [5c, 5d ]
BagClip2005 wins $221.90 USD from main pot
BagClip2005 wins $27.65 USD from main pot
01-12-2009 , 09:18 PM
mbn
01-12-2009 , 09:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaFossil
Ummm, if it's so easy to move up stakes to 5/10 then why aren't you doing it? You aren't going for SNE (that I know of), but you are still at SSNL. Everyone always thinks they're making a great point when they belittle people for attempting SNE and saying they should just play fewer tables and move up stakes, but the fact is NL600+ is pretty damn tough these days and it's very likely that NL100 or NL200 is the biggest level the majority of the people here can beat long-term. So why not go for SNE and get tons of added bonuses if NL100/NL200 is the highest level you can beat?
I've been playing poker for 1 year (approx. 250,000 hands lifetime), I learned the rules and stuff last christmas. I began at 0.02/0.04 limit on stars and played that with a $5 bankroll that I busted until I got a bankroll of $100 in about March, and began learning nl2 while going to college. Not that that's hard but I didn't have that much time to play, I'm sure many ssnl players have logged way more lifetime hands than me. Also I was at nl10 for like 4 months or something, I had about $1k going into september and I was quite pleased with the progress I made after that point. Maybe I ran good I'm not sure, but I really don't think I did, the biggest "heater" I've ever had was 14 buyins in 1 friday night at nl100.

I have about 10k at the moment playing 1/2. I had 12.5k at the start of December. Took a shot at 2/4 for 9k hands, lost 10 buyins, was down about 8-10 buyins in allin EV according to this tool, Idk how this really works, I don't have HEM, I was using http://www.pokertracker.com/forums/v...693d269edb98ab for pt3. I then tilted, moved down to 1/2, played many tables trying to hit supernova, started playing terrible and doubting my play, and was down a total of 6k in EV including from 2/4 in only the month of December.

I actually went down to $4800 at one point when I decided 14 tables was way too many for me, and I was very upset. If wakeboarderr can do it, good for him. Anyway I was playing breakeven poker and getting terribly unlucky doing it. Around Christmas I was at about $6k and still 6k down in EV. I spent the rest of december and january so far studying and working on my game to get back to where I am, and I've been playing great with 4-8 tables.

You are correct, I am not going for supernova elite. I know wakeboarderr slightly, we've talked on aim, I wasn't saying anything bad about him, I was asking him an honest question. If he does go for supernova elite this year then good luck to him. As I said before, I honestly do not know how much SNE is worth, but for me I would not be able to do it at this time and keep my sanity.

I don't know where I'll be in 1, 3, or 12 months, especially on my own, but if any ssnl reg actually puts in the studying/practicing time trying to improve it is definately possible to beat msnl, and if not, with a coach's help it would probably be easy game. Since he said he had a coach, I figured maybe if he played less tables and focused on improving, he could go far pretty quickly.

I'm still down $5480 in EV too since end of november and I've played 65k hands, wtf is this?? I'm so jealous of you guys who run hot!

Last edited by jaysu; 01-12-2009 at 09:44 PM.
01-12-2009 , 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arvid2k7
brag : blufft marten 3 streets
beat : lost the pot




Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 4735
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Milwaukee2 (UTG): $709.20
ZipD (MP): $450.40
martenJ (CO): $241.60
Hero (BTN): $283.05
simborr (SB): $470.50
dudeman22 (BB): $40.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with K Q
2 folds, martenJ raises to $6, Hero calls $6, simborr calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($20.00) 2 6 7 (3 players)
simborr checks, martenJ checks, Hero bets $15, simborr calls $15, martenJ calls $15

Turn: ($65.00) 5 (3 players)
simborr checks, martenJ checks, Hero bets $40, simborr calls $40, martenJ calls $40

River: ($185.00) 5 (3 players)
simborr checks, martenJ checks, Hero bets $222.05 all in, simborr calls $222.05, martenJ folds

Final Pot: $629.10
Hero shows K Q (a pair of Fives)
simborr shows T K (a flush, King high)
simborr wins $626.10
(Rake: $3.00)
haha, were you drunk.
01-12-2009 , 09:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dstazy100
deff gregy could rape some 5/10 regs but could u rape the limit in general...jus so many good players there sucha as 20 buck spin, paul_rus, leatherass, mezmerizemeplz, etc etc etc
Two of those are not like the others.. But 20 buck is my hero.
01-12-2009 , 10:06 PM
where is greggy's yearly graph?
01-12-2009 , 11:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arvid2k7
brag : blufft marten 3 streets
beat : lost the pot




Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 4735
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Milwaukee2 (UTG): $709.20
ZipD (MP): $450.40
martenJ (CO): $241.60
Hero (BTN): $283.05
simborr (SB): $470.50
dudeman22 (BB): $40.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with K Q
2 folds, martenJ raises to $6, Hero calls $6, simborr calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($20.00) 2 6 7 (3 players)
simborr checks, martenJ checks, Hero bets $15, simborr calls $15, martenJ calls $15

Turn: ($65.00) 5 (3 players)
simborr checks, martenJ checks, Hero bets $40, simborr calls $40, martenJ calls $40

River: ($185.00) 5 (3 players)
simborr checks, martenJ checks, Hero bets $222.05 all in, simborr calls $222.05, martenJ folds

Final Pot: $629.10
Hero shows K Q (a pair of Fives)
simborr shows T K (a flush, King high)
simborr wins $626.10
(Rake: $3.00)
i had 45ss and was gonna call if fish doesnt call. i dont fold trips!

arvid lets do some sort of small propbet who plays more hands and /or wins more for the rest of the month. gotta keep myself motivated and im kinda slackin atm and i think u are too
btw im not planning on makin SNE.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bagclip2007
PokerStars Game #23844306315: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2009/01/12 19:56:41 ET
Table 'Mineura' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: x_QUIXTAR_x ($203 in chips)
Seat 2: BagClip2005 ($214.10 in chips)
Seat 3: martenJ ($206.35 in chips)
Seat 4: MaKiaVeli ($215 in chips)
Seat 5: Cobbo09 ($73.10 in chips)
Seat 6: bait455 ($425.95 in chips)
bait455: posts small blind $1
x_QUIXTAR_x: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BagClip2005 [2s 2c]
BagClip2005: raises $4 to $6
martenJ: calls $6
MaKiaVeli: folds
Cobbo09: folds
bait455: folds
x_QUIXTAR_x: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [2d 6c 9h]
x_QUIXTAR_x: checks
BagClip2005: bets $14
martenJ: raises $34 to $48
x_QUIXTAR_x: folds
BagClip2005: calls $34
*** TURN *** [2d 6c 9h] [2h]
BagClip2005: checks
martenJ: bets $72
BagClip2005: raises $88.10 to $160.10 and is all-in
martenJ: calls $80.35 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($7.75) returned to BagClip2005
*** RIVER *** [2d 6c 9h 2h] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BagClip2005: shows [2s 2c] (four of a kind, Deuces)
martenJ: mucks hand
BagClip2005 collected $416.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $419.70 | Rake $3
Board [2d 6c 9h 2h Qc]
Seat 1: x_QUIXTAR_x (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: BagClip2005 showed [2s 2c] and won ($416.70) with four of a kind, Deuces
Seat 3: martenJ mucked [6s 6d]
Seat 4: MaKiaVeli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Cobbo09 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bait455 (small blind) folded before Flop
mbn

Last edited by martenJ; 01-12-2009 at 11:33 PM.
01-12-2009 , 11:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by martenJ
i had 45ss and was gonna call if fish doesnt call. i dont fold trips!

arvid lets do some sort of small propbet who plays more hands and /or wins more for the rest of the month. gotta keep myself motivated and im kinda slackin atm and i think u are too
btw im not planning on makin SNE.



mbn
yeah good idea. im also propbetting alot with dennis, so maybe we can integrate him :P

add me in ICQ : 196788970
01-12-2009 , 11:57 PM
lol i have aim, skype and msn but no icq. PM me for details
01-13-2009 , 12:02 AM
skype : arvidonfire
01-13-2009 , 12:02 AM
*** SECRET ***

Coaches are a scam. They only thing they are good for is making you be accountable. If you are paying someone money you are less likely to spew/tilt, you are more likely to play your best because you want the coach to succeed. It's much like a "life coach"

It just adds accountability and personal responsibility.

These are things that you can easily accomplish on your own if you can objectively look at your game and try to figure out what you need to improve in.


Moral of the story; unless you're a weakminded donk - don't get a coach. Coaches are for people who are never going to succeed.


btw im taking on students, pm for details.
01-13-2009 , 12:21 AM
Assuming that was even true, do you think that you can learn important poker concepts more quickly on your own than if your friend was the best poker player in the world and he enjoyed giving you daily lessons for free?

I don't really see the point of your post, maybe some coaches suck? Find one who can actually tell you where to improve your game?
01-13-2009 , 12:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sniderstyle
*** SECRET ***

Coaches are a scam. They only thing they are good for is making you be accountable. If you are paying someone money you are less likely to spew/tilt, you are more likely to play your best because you want the coach to succeed. It's much like a "life coach"

It just adds accountability and personal responsibility.

These are things that you can easily accomplish on your own if you can objectively look at your game and try to figure out what you need to improve in.


Moral of the story; unless you're a weakminded donk - don't get a coach. Coaches are for people who are never going to succeed.


btw im taking on students, pm for details.
wat..
01-13-2009 , 12:44 AM
whats mbn?
01-13-2009 , 12:48 AM
being coached def. helps
01-13-2009 , 01:07 AM
I think having a coach is just like having a teacher in any other kind of class. imo you can pretty much learn everything that you would learn in a regular class on your own if you really put the time and effort into it, but having a teacher there helps you learn the material much faster and more easily.
01-13-2009 , 01:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sniderstyle
Moral of the story; unless you're a weakminded donk - don't get a coach. Coaches are for people who are never going to succeed.
Do you believe that religion is a crutch for weakminded people?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. I've never gotten coaching, but I think there are definitely some other benefits besides the "life coach" aspects in having an expert in your field observe you firsthand.
01-13-2009 , 01:16 AM
fml, why i did i buy the 4k bonus when i knew all my time would be filled with christmas/family stuff? now i need to clear another 25k vpps in the next 6 weeks, gonna have to play more tables than i'm capable of and probably gonna go broke.
01-13-2009 , 01:22 AM
meh, just email scotty, hes reasonable
01-13-2009 , 01:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bagclip2007
whats mbn?
must be nice ldo
01-13-2009 , 02:00 AM
PokerStars Game #23851663991: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2009/01/13 6:40:16 CET [2009/01/13 0:40:16 ET]
Table 'Hansa V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: bsbllage09 ($276.70 in chips)
Seat 3: andethegreat ($519.40 in chips)
Seat 4: akevin87 ($261 in chips)
Seat 5: rjpokerking ($75 in chips)
Seat 6: martenJ ($339.85 in chips)
bsbllage09: posts small blind $1
andethegreat: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to martenJ [2d 2h]
akevin87: raises $6 to $8
rjpokerking: folds
martenJ: calls $8
bsbllage09: folds
andethegreat: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc 2s Kc]
akevin87: bets $14
martenJ: calls $14
*** TURN *** [Qc 2s Kc] [As]
akevin87: checks
martenJ: bets $32
akevin87: calls $32
*** RIVER *** [Qc 2s Kc As] [Ks]
akevin87: checks
martenJ: bets $60
akevin87: raises $147 to $207 and is all-in
martenJ: folds

villain is 21/15 over 8k hands WWSF 37% W$SD 59% and river aggression 2.5

std?
01-13-2009 , 02:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by martenJ
PokerStars Game #23851663991: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2009/01/13 6:40:16 CET [2009/01/13 0:40:16 ET]
Table 'Hansa V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: bsbllage09 ($276.70 in chips)
Seat 3: andethegreat ($519.40 in chips)
Seat 4: akevin87 ($261 in chips)
Seat 5: rjpokerking ($75 in chips)
Seat 6: martenJ ($339.85 in chips)
bsbllage09: posts small blind $1
andethegreat: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to martenJ [2d 2h]
akevin87: raises $6 to $8
rjpokerking: folds
martenJ: calls $8
bsbllage09: folds
andethegreat: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc 2s Kc]
akevin87: bets $14
martenJ: calls $14
*** TURN *** [Qc 2s Kc] [As]
akevin87: checks
martenJ: bets $32
akevin87: calls $32
*** RIVER *** [Qc 2s Kc As] [Ks]
akevin87: checks
martenJ: bets $60
akevin87: raises $147 to $207 and is all-in
martenJ: folds

villain is 21/15 over 8k hands WWSF 37% W$SD 59% and river aggression 2.5

std?
i still dont fold cause im bad but yes
01-13-2009 , 02:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sniderstyle
*** SECRET ***

Coaches are a scam. They only thing they are good for is making you be accountable. If you are paying someone money you are less likely to spew/tilt, you are more likely to play your best because you want the coach to succeed. It's much like a "life coach"

It just adds accountability and personal responsibility.

These are things that you can easily accomplish on your own if you can objectively look at your game and try to figure out what you need to improve in.


Moral of the story; unless you're a weakminded donk - don't get a coach. Coaches are for people who are never going to succeed.


btw im taking on students, pm for details.
Ignorance is bliss.
01-13-2009 , 02:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASC-what
I think having a coach is just like having a teacher in any other kind of class. imo you can pretty much learn everything that you would learn in a regular class on your own if you really put the time and effort into it, but having a teacher there helps you learn the material much faster and more easily.
I disagree. THere is some stuff that people just don't get, no matter how much you study on your own. Like when Krantz was coaching me, a hand came up when I knew guy was 3-bet bluffing but I had air. He says very naturally, just cal the 3-bet and bet 1/10 pot on turn.

      
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