as far as i know, yeah, only the ME

Also kevin2384 grinding hard on getting a fish to stay.

wp'd sir!

I don't get all the shortstack hate.

Clearly they are making money. If they weren't making money, they wouldn't do it. If anything, hate Pokerstars for allowing it to run as rampant as it is. I don't even bother with non 50bb tables anymore because when a table has two or three shortstacks it just isn't fun,challenging, and no money to be made.
But, If I couldn't make money sitting full stacked but could shortstacked, why wouldn't I do it?

Don't hate the playah, hate the game.

it means you are a good regular

Its not just registering through pokerstars... you have to sign over your rights to wear patches and stuff for anyone other then stars, so if you 1) make a TV table, you get no chance for a deal since youre already obligated to wear PS gear, and 2) If you make a FT you wont be able to get a huge deal like everyone else, since youll be forced to wear stars stuff

Lol yeah he ended up staying quite a while Unfortunately I barely made any money off him and the only big pot I won I got it in bad.

Edit: Also many thanks to louisnapsack for telling him his losses from ptr and then quitting like 3 hands later. Well done.

PokerStars Game #36665835356: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2009/12/13 20:14:19 PT [2009/12/13 23:14:19 ET]
Table 'Lacerta V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: shamrock20 ($262.85 in chips)
Seat 2: BiG_TiME_845 ($272.90 in chips)
Seat 3: shewter ($441.05 in chips)
Seat 4: f1sherox ($436.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Kevin_2384 ($325.90 in chips)
Seat 6: AceBonG ($200 in chips)
shamrock20: posts small blind $1
BiG_TiME_845: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shamrock20 [Ac Ah]
shewter: calls $2
f1sherox: folds
Kevin_2384: folds
AceBonG: calls $2
shamrock20: raises $10 to $12
BiG_TiME_845: calls $10
shewter: calls $10
AceBonG: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [Qs Ad 4c]
shamrock20: bets $30
BiG_TiME_845: folds
shewter: calls $30
AceBonG: calls $30
*** TURN *** [Qs Ad 4c] [3s]
shamrock20: bets $88
shewter: raises $88 to $176
AceBonG: calls $158 and is all-in
shamrock20: raises $44.85 to $220.85 and is all-in
shewter: calls $44.85
*** RIVER *** [Qs Ad 4c 3s] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shamrock20: shows [Ac Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)
shewter: shows [5d 2d] (a straight, Ace to Five)
shewter collected $125.70 from side pot
AceBonG: shows [As 8s] (a pair of Aces)
shewter collected $609 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $737.70 Main pot $609. Side pot $125.70. | Rake $3
Board [Qs Ad 4c 3s Jh]
Seat 1: shamrock20 (small blind) showed [Ac Ah] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 2: BiG_TiME_845 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: shewter showed [5d 2d] and won ($734.70) with a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 4: f1sherox folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Kevin_2384 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AceBonG (button) showed [As 8s] and lost with a pair of Aces

lol AceBonG

Yeah that hand was unreal

uuuhhhhmmm, you do get that I showed you exactly a system like that in my screenshots???

Ummmmmmmm, the highest winrate was .81. Most are huge losers. They should just get a job and let us play real poker

rakeback yo

Well if you get 600k vpps the rakeback you get amounts to ~1ptbb. Obv not a wonderful winrate but for those that break even win or lose a little pre rake back they still have a decent hourly esp if they are 15-24 tabling.

lol yeah i was at that table, he put in work lol.

ill just say you cant tell by ptr when they started shortstacking or if theyve ever fullstacked. only if they ss during the whole of the graph AND ptr catches all their hands, your stats are a valid example

Well if PTR misses some of there hands it should be equally likely to overstate as understate there winrate.

but PTR only misses the hands you win sfobv

In all seriousness though **** that site I hate it... they missed like 4k last month

I am not a fan of the sites existence either but not because i care if it accuratly states my results.

that would be true only if they had a zero WR, or very low variance, which seem to be mutually exclusive, most of the time you have a very low WR you have a very high variance, therefore it increases the chances of of mistating the WR. and if your WR is >0 its more likely to overstate and if its <0 its more likely to understate. to see why just think of a normal curve w/ any given WR, the mean being their true WR, and think where 0 is in relation, if its >0 youll have more of a chance of var showing a +wr and vice versa

yea obv its bad, but if its gonna be there it might as well get the results of my career month right

572k vpppss and countingg!

Brag: red line winner

100NL

wow

U suck at all-ins

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