you should be 3betting 77 pre there with that open size.

why do u halfstack?

ur call pre is def. -EV if hes good.

but im better

From what i've seen he does rathole, which isnt cool but doesnt bother me at all. The HH you posted is exactly my point, you don't have odds to call there and if you don't flop a set there you playing a complete guessing game about calling down getting decent odds to do so.

I'm not saying stop doing what you doing, i'd rather have you or any other reg at the table than a shortstack, just feels like i'm missing something cos the downsides to it seem so obvious.

theres so much lol in this hand.
I love poker

If I didnt leave once I hit a certain number of bb's, there would be no point in playing halfstacked to begin with. Chances are I would still be on another one of your tables anyways so its not like you cant win your money back there.

(not directed towards you brandysbich since i realize you said it doesnt bother you)

The discussion ended up going in an obviously expected direction -- so continue needling me if you'd all like... I don't really care, it makes for good reading between sessions.

Gl at the tables

I had a dream I ran over Dora the Explorer with my car today. All that was left was the little backpack. One of the straps was broken.

You're probably broke because of silly ideas like this. Get better, full stack. It is much more profitable long term.

Greg, plz stop posting hands between us. K thx

especially since your play w/ 77 is horrible in that hand.

na i said it was against someone decent

The 77 hand is fine IMO. It would only be bad if he is gonna set mine. I sometimes half stack too and I will cold call mid PP pre and take the lead on the flop with or without a set.

The stack sizes make things difficult for villain. Say the flop was something like AK2 and hero leads 16 again. The stacks are so shallow that if villain is gonna make a play he is pretty much committing himself with any piece because he will be getting pretty good pot odds even with a KQ or something.

Hero is only risking 16 to take down the pot, but if villain wants to contest the pot he has to commit much more. He could cold call of course, and that is probably the best option with a lot of hands. Then hero just has to play a balanced bet turn/check raise turn/check fold turn game when cold called.

When I buy in half stack I will cold call pretty much my entire range and then lead the flop. That means (obv) I will have lots of good aces in my range because i'm only cold calling a pretty strong range OOP. I like to do fun stuff like lead half pot and people shove garbage all the time.

It makes for a very mathematical and interesting (to me) dynamic. But shortstacking is easier so I usually just do that.

if ur gonna 1/2 stack, you have to exploit people by 3betting a wider value range, which def includes 77, given his open size. The way you play with 50bbs is to 3bet quite a bit cause its a lot harder for people to play back light.

the flop lead is horrible, you handcuff the utg limp/caller and this is a board that is getting cbet 100% of the time and barrel a ton.

I disagree. I have tried the approach you describe and have found that the regs are very good at handling the 3 betting. The have a good idea of your range and fold when they should for the most part. I found I wasn't getting paid much when I had good hands, and tried the cold call and lead flop approach and found it much more effective.

And I disagree on the cbet comment. Regs at these stakes loooooooove to check behind.

you are wrong.

If the flop lead is so bad, a good villain should read into it thinking theres no way I could be stupid enough to lead with a set on such a dry board and raise me with garbage so I fold my garbage.

Basically what happened, amirite?

if you were deep it might be a decent play but not with these stacks. He can't raise/fold to any amount, and a bluff jam risks a ton to win very little, and you are losing cbet money like 100% of the time and money on a ton of turn shoves when his equity improves or when the board gets good to bluff (which happens a lot on this texture).

i don't get how you 1/2 stack if you don't understand 50bb poker atall.

ok first off its not how they play vs. your range, its the fact is that can't do anything. like if they are in this spot with a ton of suited connectors/1gappers/axs/and broadways, how much of his range do you think he is incorrectly folding? If you aren't getting paid with good hands, then you obviously aren't 3betting enough. doing ******ed stop and gos with 50bb stacks with small pairs is awful.

no one checks back 732r ever.

It isn't so ******ed when I also do it with AA, AK etc...Makes it pretty hard to play against IMO.

And I really really disagree on the checking back stuff. People are constantly checking stuff back against me on really dry flops. They also hate folding to leads, so it seems like a better line most of the time.

klink I mistook you for an easy going, light hearted poster. Not a typical ssnl dik whapper.

I mean if you aint gettin any just go pay for it.

Lol @ u judging my entire 50bb credibility off a single hand.

online poker is serious business for everyone involved

besides this:

I hate to admit klink is right

7 3 2 r is beautiful