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01-31-2013 , 10:56 PM

#301

Alexander Young

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,115

Quote:

Originally Posted by North Squad

I have been running it twice. It's just so much nicer to run close to EV. It's tilting to think that you played a session where you played excellently and ended up down 5 BIs because you couldn't win a flip. It's almost equally as tilting to play a session like **** and finish up 1/2 a BI because you luckboxed your way out of it and just leave the session thinking "wow... I'm the worst"

Just a question though: Do they rake each pot separately? I remember on tilt before black friday when I used to watch guys playing nosebleed PLO, each pot got raked. Although.... it's like 3$ in a 200k pot up there so it probably doesn't matter to them.

This is only tilting because you think 'a session' matters.

01-31-2013 , 11:02 PM

#302

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,771

unless you are a robot without emotions it always matters to an extent

01-31-2013 , 11:05 PM

#303

Alexander Young

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,115

I'm certainly not saying losing doesn't suck. Resolving tilt doesn't mean not feeling emotions.

I'm just saying that framing your results in that way when you're supposed to lose 40%+ of your sessions (I don't know the actual number, but whatever) is probably not going to help you.

01-31-2013 , 11:34 PM

#304

pontylad

banned

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,765

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImDoNuts

ty for letting me know that info at the tables! gl to you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashy

just lost 12 pots in a row vs a fish(basically all coolers)
#fun

revenge for bumhunting.

Last edited by pontylad; 01-31-2013 at 11:35 PM. Reason: I'm J/K cashy, ul fella.

01-31-2013 , 11:56 PM

#305

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,771

Quote:

Originally Posted by pontylad

revenge for table creating.

01-31-2013 , 11:59 PM

#306

pontylad

banned

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,765

haha, i hope you noticed below my post that i said i was kidding. gl sir, hope it turns around.

02-01-2013 , 01:15 AM

#307

North Squad

adept

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 898

I'm hardly letting one session affect how I play in the next one, but you can't tell me that it doesn't feel better to leave with a profit than a loss...

If you care at all about the money then it obviously matters.

I guess I was just trying to say it's nice to run as close to EV is possible and leave it at that

02-01-2013 , 06:49 AM

#308

d7o1d1s0

Coach NLHE

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,463

logic behind not running it twice vs fish - say we get it in flipping vs a fish and run it twice. often, we're each going to win half the pot. which is fine. say we run it once. either I stack the fish (a good thing for me, I get all his money before another reg does) or the fish doubles up (a good thing for me, as my edge on him is now bigger).

02-01-2013 , 10:40 AM

#309

RNGmyasss

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 40

As variance is not inherently bad....why should we avoid it?
Winning it twice as a favourite is not that great, but loosing it twice will probably make you feel as if the universe is taking a crap on you.
I dont rit.

02-01-2013 , 11:56 AM

#310

Deco354

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,270

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExaMeter

Would be interested by how much much valance is actually reduced using rit.

Allin EV doesn't make up that large of a proportion of variance in general. If you look at the standard deviation of your winnings and your EV winnings the EV winnings is only a little smaller. ~20%

I'd imagine this should effectivly half your EV variance so I guess it should reduce your overall variance by 10%.

Probably some bad maths in there somewhere

02-01-2013 , 12:15 PM

#311

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,771

Quote:

Originally Posted by d7o1d1s0

that would make sense if fish didnt hit and run so often

02-01-2013 , 01:40 PM

#312

M@$terofPKR

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 18

rit against a fish is - ev because the hit and run all the time

02-01-2013 , 03:18 PM

#313

TimStone

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8,375

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashy

just lost 12 pots in a row vs a fish(basically all coolers)
#fun

Karma is a bitch init

02-01-2013 , 03:55 PM

#314

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,771

why so jelly

02-01-2013 , 10:09 PM

#315

woolly

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,109

Quote:

Just out of curiosity, what would be your logic for not running it twice vs fish?

Quote:

Originally Posted by d7o1d1s0

pretty much this

i think i'm going to stop using RiT at all personally tho, seem to keep losing against the guys who have it turned off and chopping all my 65/35s with it on. think if you can handle the variance it's easier to do w/o.

02-02-2013 , 12:14 AM

#316

mperich

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,212

I think my fds always hit when they are clubs and miss when they are diamonds :O

02-02-2013 , 02:53 AM

#317

El P

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,714

clubs are my favourite, but i'm pretty sure hearts are the flush suit.

diamonds are best for flopping it, but never get there if you get it in on the draw. dunno bout spades, i'll do some research (i have an inkling they're the power suit, which means people fold to bets/all-ins because of the perceived abitlity to flop spade flushes or get there if on a draw).

02-02-2013 , 05:25 AM

#318

fsn

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,286

micro-stakes super bowl squares, gogogo

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...uares-1295762/

02-02-2013 , 09:21 AM

#319

LOLdonkaments.

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,773

All flush over flushes are confirmed to happen on spade boards.. fold and avoid the cooler if you don't have the nut flush.

Just wondering whether anyone here filters hands for last X months for their HUD, and if so what number? I feel as if my stats might be getting outdated now, but I wonder how often people make a radical change to their game that would be reflected in their stats (probably not as often as I think though).

02-02-2013 , 11:28 AM

#320

Deco354

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,270

I go with 3months.

02-02-2013 , 01:58 PM

#321

Arvid2k7

adept

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,069

RIT is for girls!

02-02-2013 , 04:00 PM

#322

brighten

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 90

what is the best HUD for zoom right now? HEM1 vs HEM2 VS PT4.

I have been using HEM 1 for quite a while and really like it. heard lot of negative
things about HEM2 so have not upgraded yet.

Never use PT4 before ,but have seen lot of good feedback about it.

thanks!

02-02-2013 , 04:12 PM

#323

hodgie19

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 546

Anyone in here who doesnt run it twice vs regs really doesnt understand variance IMO. Or clearly has never gone 0/12 in flips on a session

02-02-2013 , 05:55 PM

#324

BillyRosewood

enthusiast

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by brighten

I bought HEM2 in less than a week ago and I think its great. Before that I had HM1 för like 2-3 years or so and I was thinking just like you about HEM2 but now Im very pleased that I bought the new one.

02-02-2013 , 06:00 PM

#325

PlasticElephant

Coach NLHE

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,336

Quote:

Originally Posted by El P

dunno bout spades, i'll do some research (i have an inkling they're the power suit, which means people fold to bets/all-ins because of the perceived abitlity to flop spade flushes or get there if on a draw).

this is definitely true

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