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05-13-2012 , 09:49 PM
to answer that question in a word Mal, NO. I won't graph bomb it this time, but its ugly.

Here's to running hot in Vegas this summer..

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05-14-2012 , 02:14 AM
i thought i would live a more exciting life without 2p2 but i was terribly wrong... i was very sad, especially since ive spent hours and hours at airports....
05-15-2012 , 03:43 AM
Oh hi. I missed the banter in here. Recently I've decided that I'm not very good at poker and should stop trying so hard. It is now officially a hobby. I'll stick with the day job in order to get the monies.

Thankfully the job is going well and I've been making a bit of a name for myself as a useful person to have around. I just need to get a few more qualifications and then I can start making some pretty good cash.
05-16-2012 , 01:48 AM
Sick thing for euro's are that they can play on merge, cash out all the U.S. players @ 80% and bank.

It's like tons of free money and you only have to play enough to cover the limit for withdrawals on transferred money.

Obviously, they will have a ton more withdrawals than net profit come tax time, but I'm sure if you keep records, then it wouldn't be too bad.
05-16-2012 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by smurg
Sick thing for euro's are that they can play on merge, cash out all the U.S. players @ 80% and bank.

It's like tons of free money and you only have to play enough to cover the limit for withdrawals on transferred money.

Obviously, they will have a ton more withdrawals than net profit come tax time, but I'm sure if you keep records, then it wouldn't be too bad.
Tax? Most of us don't pay taxes on gambling winnings.
05-16-2012 , 02:39 AM
I don't think any americans are selling at 80%
05-16-2012 , 04:50 AM
well everything is considered illegal in Belgium except pokerstars =)
05-16-2012 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by isunkurbttlship
I don't think any americans are selling at 80%
The guy has like a 5 page (obv 100 post/page) listing going on in the market with all trades like $50+.

When it takes 3 months to get money, people sell low for moneypak.
05-16-2012 , 11:35 AM
Yo math brainz...is there some official way to calculate the "closest to true EV" of a hand. AIEV is obviously flawed, I recall something similar that did AIEV on each street weighted by how much went in or something.
05-16-2012 , 10:37 PM
What up regs



Just wondering is there any chance that the upcoming announcement will allow FTP to enter the us market again.
05-17-2012 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jex
Just wondering is there any chance that the upcoming announcement will allow FTP to enter the us market again.
seriously, who cares? as long as I get my $$$ back i dont give a eff what happens to FTP.
05-17-2012 , 04:29 PM
Hey regs! I don't know if I ever fully outed myself but I wanted to now because I'm going to pursue coaching in the near future. I played under the alias lolohr4411u. For those who played against me I'd appreciate your thoughts, compliments and critiques.

I haven't played online since 4/15 but am now in the position where I am gearing up and refreshing my skill set to play live and coach. Looking forward to participating in these parts again and I appreciate the testimonials!
05-17-2012 , 04:49 PM
so you don't play online anymore, but want to pursue coaching poker in the vastly evolving world of online pokerz?
05-17-2012 , 06:19 PM
I know I have a lot to offer in terms of coaching. I recognize that I am unfamiliar with the metaflow of todays games but that doesnt take away from what is important about coaching, being able to make a player better. I understand enough from a holistic perspective to make any player at micro/SSNL better.
05-17-2012 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverFenix
I know I have a lot to offer in terms of coaching. I recognize that I am unfamiliar with the metaflow of todays games but that doesnt take away from what is important about coaching, being able to make a player better. I understand enough from a holistic perspective to make any player at micro/SSNL better.
You're not wrong but it'd still be good to at least play some online to get your game unrusted etc.
05-17-2012 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by curve
so you don't play online anymore, but want to pursue coaching poker in the vastly evolving world of online pokerz?
fundamentals don't change




gl with coaching, nothing rly to add
05-17-2012 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by curve
so you don't play online anymore, but want to pursue coaching poker in the vastly evolving world of online pokerz?
The key to winning at online poker was never (ever) in the details of learning "so how's it done nowadays", but in learning to think critically/logically.

I think it's pretty much impossible that someone who has a solid grasp on how to think about poker would ever "devolve" into somebody that cannot beat poker.

Lots of people who crushed in like 2005 couldn't beat the games later, but that's because dogs trained by monkeys could beat poker in 2005, so lots of those people weren't really good at thinking about poker in the first place. I think most of those players were weeded out by around 2008 or so.

Having said that, that's also what makes it really ****ing hard to teach/coach poker -- the ability/skill to think critically and problem solve is not easy to teach, and why most coaches probably are not worth it (and some few are *really* worth it).
05-18-2012 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bilbo-san
The key to winning at online poker was never (ever) in the details of learning "so how's it done nowadays", but in learning to think critically/logically.

I think it's pretty much impossible that someone who has a solid grasp on how to think about poker would ever "devolve" into somebody that cannot beat poker.

Lots of people who crushed in like 2005 couldn't beat the games later, but that's because dogs trained by monkeys could beat poker in 2005, so lots of those people weren't really good at thinking about poker in the first place. I think most of those players were weeded out by around 2008 or so.

Having said that, that's also what makes it really ****ing hard to teach/coach poker -- the ability/skill to think critically and problem solve is not easy to teach, and why most coaches probably are not worth it (and some few are *really* worth it).
Yeah, but to be honest: most students didnt "evolve" into poker thinking, starting at the basics: okay: now I wanna bet, because I want value out of..., or: now, I'm gonna bet because I want to fold out xyz.
They start out, because they sucked, and then want to not suck any more by hiring coaches who listen to their various bad-beat-stories, when in fact they just need fundamental changes in their thinking behaviour - which is - of course - actually impossible to implement, because actually they needed to hire someone to beat the microstakes. At higher stakes, I don't know, but at micros, I'm always hesitant, because I can't really teach random players how to think about poker. Dunno.
05-18-2012 , 01:14 AM
It's probably my fault, but how do you teach the most basics to someone who can read the basics anyway for free anywhere? Is he stupid or something? Or just lazy? I mean: hey, how did we all get here?
05-18-2012 , 01:29 AM
I agree, especially if it's those 1-2 h packages where you're supposed to pick up new things and all of a sudden be on a whole different level. It just doesn't work that way. There's so much free information around here and it's a lot better to just join/form a study group and take it from there. I mean if you can't beat the micros w the vast information given for free here, then you're most likely not going to get anywhere pokerwise and you're probably just wasting your time.
This is just for micro's and and lower level of SSNL, dunno about the rest.
05-18-2012 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Swiiftx
I agree, especially if it's those 1-2 h packages where you're supposed to pick up new things and all of a sudden be on a whole different level. It just doesn't work that way. There's so much free information around here and it's a lot better to just join/form a study group and take it from there. I mean if you can't beat the micros w the vast information given for free here, then you're most likely not going to get anywhere pokerwise and you're probably just wasting your time.
This is just for micro's and and lower level of SSNL, dunno about the rest.
Dunno. Isildur is probalby saying the same thing about SSNL or even mid-stakes. I dont know. Maybe it's just my attitude. I probably suck at coaching. And even if I dont, I dont care too much about it.
05-18-2012 , 03:28 AM
good bye poker regs i just got diablo 3
05-18-2012 , 04:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo-san
The key to winning at online poker was never (ever) in the details of learning "so how's it done nowadays", but in learning to think critically/logically.

I think it's pretty much impossible that someone who has a solid grasp on how to think about poker would ever "devolve" into somebody that cannot beat poker.

Lots of people who crushed in like 2005 couldn't beat the games later, but that's because dogs trained by monkeys could beat poker in 2005, so lots of those people weren't really good at thinking about poker in the first place. I think most of those players were weeded out by around 2008 or so.

Having said that, that's also what makes it really ****ing hard to teach/coach poker -- the ability/skill to think critically and problem solve is not easy to teach, and why most coaches probably are not worth it (and some few are *really* worth it).
hohoho first of all. I don't believe a pokercoach should focus on fundamentals only when he realizes that the student LACKS them. A coach is imo only necessary when you have the fundamentals but you want to squeeze out that precious extra bb and want to become a top tier player on your limit.

I agree that NLHE is almost solved mathematically, but that's also the reason why fundamentals shouldn't be a priority for a coach, because tbh everything is free to find and if you aren't capable to understand the information you are most likely on your maximum level already.

Anyway I'm not saying it's useless, but to be honest live poker is just complete **** and if I'd have to take a coach that doesn't play online anymore I wouldn't feel comfortable. Hell I haven't played the last 6 weeks a single hand, because of my thesis and I already feel rusty while I was beating 400.
05-18-2012 , 06:28 AM
WADDAP BRAHS
05-18-2012 , 09:04 AM
'sup

      
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