I felt like that till I decided to quit the ****ty job I picked up a while after BF and deposit back online again. Now I forum grind and waste a ton of time, putting in the ole 2 hours a day and since I have online poker again I don't have to sweat all that stuff. That said, I had most of my roll on Pstars and consider my FTP money dead.

its a bad situation obviously, but it doesnt sound like hes being proactive with his situation. i didnt have much relative to what ive lost with ftp, but i packed my **** moved to LV to grind a much smaller game than what i was use to. almost a year later, im doing alright, except for the money i blew in vegas, which was quite a bit i guess. im in macau, games are great, going to be playing online poker very soon.




dont sit around doing nothing feeling sorry for yourself...

he's 22 and talks like the world is ending. It's just arrogant which I don't mind, but he sounds like a f ******. He can just get a degree and earn money or what bear jew says. The fact that he states he can't grind casino, because he has to pay the bills is bull****, because if you are such a good pokerplayer you'd make money atleast on monthly basis and he shouldn't have a problem to get a stake from a friend.

Also his "problems" that he sums up:

- can't play wsop
- can't go to mexico

***** plsss

obviously no one expects to get 40k stolen from them, and of course you should react in an efficient manner, but i never heard Shipityo argue otherwise..

yeah I was just talking about the guy he quoted. Offcourse the situation is really ****ed up, but it happened and by now you should have a new plan for your life and just expect the money to be gone. If it ever comes back with those crazy frenchies it's a big bonus and you can thank Mohammed the prophet, but whining because your friends go to mexico and you can't go their is a bit overdone when so many people work every day just to get their bills paid.

ssnl ftp regs meetup and disneyland, california if we get our monies back at any point. would also be down for disneyworld, japan

disneyland, hong kong imo

HK works for me

Agreed. It is a ****ty situation, but if you sit there and feel sorry for yourself instead of trying to make the best of it, then you have it coming.

Would go to Disneyland for the soul purpose of trying to get into a fight with goofy.

That ****er has it coming.

Can someone do merge for paypal?

shipityo, if youre still looking for a stake


http://www.leggopoker.com/blogs/prob...eak-10784.html

It seems insane to me, but there are a lot of people out there doing exactly that, just sitting around doing nothing for 9 months waiting for their money and for FTP to come back.

I get what you're saying about being 22 and still being young and able to make money etc... but if you think getting a degree in America means **** now... you are totally wrong. It is just a reoccuring theme that I see amongst people in my generation (in my country). They go to college, get their degree, and they're still stuck waiting on tables or whatever ****ty pre-college job they have.

I'm currently in my first semester back in college after a 2.5 year hiatus playing poker professionally. I have about a year left after this semester which isn't too bad. But the question arises: Is it worth it? Will a degree pay for itself? Of course you could always say: well what degree are you getting? Of course people who go to school to be doctors or rocket scientist are going to get a job straight out of school. But the majority of us are in a ****ty situation.

And the whole argument that blah blah blah if you're good enough at poker you should be making money doing it. Well personally speaking, the nearest casino to me is 6 hours away. And yeah there are a good amount of live games around me I could probably go to (admittedly I've been pretty lazy about this, but I HATE live poker). However, a few of these games have gotten robbed. And most of them 1/2 and up rake $10/10%. Some of the bigger 2/5 games rake $25/10%.

All im saying is, it isn't as cut and dry as "get up off your ass and do something". I'm currently in school and am probably about to get a stake to play on merge for side cash. But like i said, it's not as cut and dry as you made it seem. However, I do agree with you, a ton of people are sitting on their ass feeling sorry for themselves. MYSELF INCLUDED to some extent. I'm not totally defending this guy, or saying that you're wrong, because you aren't. All I'm saying is that it isn't as cut and dry as some people think it is.

I guess one last point I'm trying to make is that yes, I agree 100% that if you sit on your ass and whine about it, you're going to get what's coming to you... you're going to wake up one day and not have anything. But it is a SUPER deflating and demotivating feeling to work hard for something, make more money than you'd ever expect, and have it taken from you in the blink of an eye. Sometimes it's hard to start the engine again after that.

and yeah this is one of the guy's im speaking to about a potential stake.

Fair enough. Don't know your situation too well, but is moving out of the question? I'm not even talking about something as drastic as coming up to Canada or down to Mexico (although that would probably be your best option), but even something as simple as moving closer to a casino (you could probably even find a cheaper place to live).

I half joked before about inviting americans up to be my roommate and grind my stars/playnow/iPoker/party names, but damn it is starting to look pretty grim. Maybe there's more interest now?
Would anyone actually be interested in some kind of deal like that?

yeah was thinking about that aswell. Setting up a VPN for couple % or something

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Shipit,

A degree may not be a guarantee to a good job, but not having a degree is much more likely to make it very difficult to get a good job.

Also, it does seem to me to be as cut and dry as "get off your ass and do something". What other option is there? What does everyone else have to do? What's the difference between having something, losing it, and starting at zero...than simply already being at zero?

When BF hit, I was more or less in the same boat as you regarding this situation, but as soon as that happened I took a lot of time to go to different home games, get to know the people and ended up getting to know the best/most secure games in town and started grinding just those good games 6 days a week.

Also, my nearest casino is 4 hours away, but I took a weekend every other week and would drive there/stay there and grind all weekend.

My point is that although driving around and playing live poker is an inconvenience in your routine and might require adjustment in your life, it's still better than just doing nothing waiting for money that might never come, and even if it comes, you just wasted 9 months or who knows how long more we have to wait.

PS: Most home games have ridiculous rake, yes, but, many of them have sooooo much action that you can still be a huge winner in them. I play a $1/$2 game that plays like $5/$10 (starting stacks are around $600, later on is normal to see $2,000 stacks and people topping off/matching the bigger stacks).

Cliffs:

devinlake is on point here.

having no college degree at this point and time is equivalent to being a high school dropout a few decades ago imo.

without a degree, i wouldn't of landed the job i have currently. i overcame the year and 1/2 resume gap with no internship and prepared long and hard for my interviews.

i think this statement: "They go to college, get their degree, and they're still stuck waiting on tables or whatever ****ty pre-college job they have. " is just bull****. i watch a lot of my friends who graduated with a degree still have the same pre-college jobs not because there is nothing out there, but because they are just goddamn lazy. they go out blow their money that they make and seem sort of content with doing the same routine over and over again while applying very infrequently towards job opportunities.

yeah moving is def an option for a lot of people.

unfortunately... or fortunately... however you wanna look at it... i'm very close to my family. i have a good relationship with my parents. while they wish for me to succeed (and if moving were necessary for me to succeed they would 100% support me) i feel that my life would not be the same without them. and being able to see them whenever i please is very important to me from an emotional standpoint and a sanity standpoint.

but that just my particular situation, most people are 100% ok with moving closer to a casino or out of the country. and if i didn't have my family, i'd move out of this country SO fast.

Degrees are not useless, but they are massively overrated. I would say degrees in most subjects are mostly useless and you should be trying to get your degree as quickly and cheaply as possible.

I think the bigger issue is all the "good" jobs now require you to be some combination of hard working, talented, and run good. Most people still suck at stuff, and if you suck less at stuff than most others do your superiors will notice (if they don't look for another job). But the whole "go to a good college, get a degree, and enjoy a high paying secure job" that many people in their early 20's were taught is quite silly and not the case at all anymore.

6 years ago if you were a nurse/accountant/engineer companies were competing against each other to hire you. Now you have to compete with others to get a job at a company that probably pays less and there isn't as much room for a promotion. Get your courage wolf image ready and make it happen.

everyone is a donk at everything irl in my experience. all buttonclicking through life, sigh

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how ****ty does that guy feel right now from the 49ers tho... i would HATE to be him right now.... although he's probably got a million dollar house and lambo to comfort him when he gets home. so meh w/e