yeah, just looked up your stack.....CDQCSWIMMER

Thx for the reply, and of course you are correct and make great points for the long run. I do want to reiterate that this was when I was obsessing over what was going on with my winnings vs EV, and I was not necessarily being rational when I was digging around and filtering various aspects of my results. So don't read anything real into it - I just find it interesting to look at differences in how players winrates might be achieved, esp over short periods (the kind of events that might propel a player up a limit).

btw, all I did was filter for Saw SD = True and Flopped hand value = High or Med or Low Set, I wasn't comparing every hand of mine to only SD hands of villains. It was only over a month, statistically insignificant sample sizes, but it was a month where my results were particularly bad, and some of the regs I compared against were having particularly good months. Some of these regs were indeed good players who would (or should) get themselves into good situations, but I wouldn't say that was universal, and might not even be relevant for such a small sample.

Intuitively it still sounds right to say that results from flopped sets will have a big impact on your results over specific periods (running good or bad).

Backstroker, I only had a small hand sample for you, with the lowest total sets flopped but the highest mean bb/set (64bb/set)

would wife

pretty nasty way to win $100, but i'll take it

edit: received, thx

happens to me also, nothing you can do man, ppl are douche bags.


I'm sure this has been discussed but how many of you regs at 200nl Run It Twice? Advantages/Disadvantages of doing so etc?

Yeah they suck.

I only play rush, but I do/will have it on at normal tables. advantages, lower variance, disadvantages, none.

fyp

yeah, that was my thoughts on it too haha, I got it on by default now, but noticed only a few ppl use it so far, it does help with variance though

andrew [4:45 PM]: ther is more thinking and leveling in tournys

lol my fish friend just said this to me

I had mine turned on at first but after hearing verious arguments have turned it off. Firstly the extra rake, for a NL2000 player would be insignificant but if you're earning much less than a $1 a hand like we are at ssnl then you're paying a lot for it.

Then theres the fact that if you're a reg in the game you shouldn't have any tilt problems and should have a big enough bankroll for veriance not to matter, so the benefits of running above expecation vs someone are more than the benefits of running closer to ev.

lol @ no disadvantages

i believe the tilt induced when you run it twice and lose both flips will be a big enough disadvantage

yeah but when you run it twice you have twice as many opportunities to call for your card, which is fun. I'm still waiting for a PLO 6 way all-in run it twice. Nobody will have any idea wtf is happening

fk me got 18th in rush ftops fksjdflaks;fjdaslfj

I'm confused. You said earlier you flopped 724 sets, now 223?

I used a single filter for everything else: hole cards = pocket pair, flop hand strength = top set / middle set / bottom set. Then I went over to the reports: position where I have all the other wtsd/w$sd/w$wsf/etc stuff.

Again if those were datamined hands you'd still bias your results. If the player with the set was not all in before the river, and lost the hand - you would not get to see his hole cards.

The extra rake can equal several buyins per month. I'd rather run below EV than directly pay multiple buyins per month with no guarantee that I'm still not going to run substantially below EV anyhow.

another winning monday... shipped $26 33k gtd for $11.7k

you are a sick sob and i hate you

fcuk u...



congrats bro, teach me to win tourneys

wr all this set talk, yamchae flops sets in 3bet pots like 83% of the time

I think you're overestimating somewhat, I think its a reasonable assumption that most of us regulars will win ~50% of our allins on average, so we're paying an average of $.50 extra, then factor in the vast majority of us have 27% rb, and you're paying an average of ~$.37 per time you run it twice. I play probably 60-70k hands per month, and I'm pretty sure I don't get it in and get the opportunity to run it twice (most people seem to not use it) to amount to anywhere near several buyins.

I think its still correct for the vast majority of players to run it twice, losing buyins cause most players to make small mistakes that they will never notice in both the short and long term, and thats discounting the fact that I'm sure many regs have serious tilt issues. I run it twice, and could care less if my opponents do or don't run it twice, and honestly could care less about my allin ev or short term results, but I think people overestimate the cost in relation to the service it provides.

this too...sweating the cards running out is actually pretty fun, binkles im up for rit flips whenever you want, something like rit HA flips so we can see half plo half nl.

nah, i think the 724 was total sets (flop, turn or river).....the 223 was strictly the number of sets i flopped